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The era of the dinosaur is over. We no longer live in the land before time.
The fighters of today are facing the highest levels of competition in history. And guys, there's a lot of fighters that are
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knocking on the top five store. Knock knock knocking on the top five door.
That's right, guys. might I say couple of wins away from GOAT status.
And we actually have a couple of fighters
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active today in the UFC that I believe are a lot closer than most people may be comfortable enough to admit to being the goat of the sport. I'm talking about Morab Dvales VI.
I am talking about Ilia
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Taporia, Alex Pereira, Islam Makashev. And it seems that we have an arms race for GOAT status in 2025.
And I honestly think that these guys, a lot of them, if not already, but they're about to pass
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the people that would usually be brought up in the conventional GOAT conversation, the Anderson Silvas, the George St. Pierre, the Mighty Mouses, Jon Jones as well.
And I'm not necessarily saying that they've passed everyone, but I'm really telling you
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guys, we're going to look at these resumes for a few fighters in the modern era that I am going to make an argument for. If you give them one more good win, two more good wins, depending on who they're beating, we're looking at the new GOAT.
And when I say there's an arms
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race, I mean that we could be playing a game of hot potato. We could be playing a game of we've got Morab who's the goat in December and then we've got Ilia who's the goat in February.
There's gonna be a hot potato game of who the goat is. And I know some people just can't comprehend that.
They're going to
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be like, "Whoa, dude. You got to wait till it's all said and done." Um, résumés don't magically change when it's all said and done.
Like, they change based on what has happened most recently, right? And I also think that there are some other sneaky underrated
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resumes that we're going to talk about as well. I think that this man right here, Theodor Yan, is actually knocking on the top 10's door.
Knock knock knocking on the top 10's door. Yeah.
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Yeah. You get the point.
You get the point. But guys, let's talk about these resumes, man.
Morab is the banttom white goat. I think it's clear 99% of MMA fans agree with me.
99% of MMA fans would
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have agreed with me after his win over Shaun Ali. Okay, after his win over Umar Nur Magomeov, I'm talking about his second win over Shauna Ali.
That is 14-2 record. Those two losses were the first two fights in his entire career.
And those are losses that I can really take
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with a grain of salt because again, Morab was a tadpole rookie. I think that losing at the very beginning of your career, let alone your first two fights, not the worst look.
Those are still losses, but we don't weigh those as much as we would losses in the middle of your
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career, right? So, let's look at these wins, though.
Let's look at how many wins Morab has before we get into the elite wins. Terry on Wear, Brad Katona, Casey Kenny, Gustavo Lopez, John Dodson.
That's the first name that is going to
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stand off the board a little bit. John Dodson is a legit win.
That's a pretty good win. Cody Stamon, those are his early wins.
And then Morab has just since then gone on an absolute terror. Marlon Morice, Jose Aldo, and I know some people are going to say Aldo's old.
Aldo's old. Uh Aldo was like 34 years
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old. Aldo wasn't even as old as Vulk was when he broke the 35 curse and won his title back at the age of 36.
Aldo was one win away from a title fight. Not saying that was peak Aldo, but you are not weighing that the same way you would
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weigh getting a win over a rookie, a tadpole, someone that's totally washed. Like, it's just not the same.
That's that's Aldo at a good point in his career. Pod Jan, who I'm going to talk about is there's a very strong argument for Pota Jan being a top 10 fighter of
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all time. And some people are not willing to have that conversation.
You better start. Okay.
And Jan is the second best bantamweight of all time. I'm going to prove it.
Henry Cejudo. And that was a good version of Henry Ceudo.
I don't care if Sudo is a little old. He
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still looks phenomenal. Shauno Mali, former bantamweight champion.
Use the eye test. Elite win.
Umar Nurmagamedov. That win is going to age so unbelievably well.
And even if Umar hasn't accomplished that much, he's got a win
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over Cory Sanhagen. Shaun Ali again, Corey Sanhagen, Morab has taken out every single who's who in the bantamweight division in the modern era.
Okay, even back to Marlon Morice when at one time Marlon Morice was a scary
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fighter. He's taken out literally every who's who in the bantamweight division and he's starting to lap them.
Morab Dvalis Vi has two wins over Ali. He's got a win over the next guy up, Umar Nurmagamedov.
He's got a win over
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longtime staple in the top five Sanhagen. He's got a win over craftier, still very good versions of themselves fighters like Jose Aldo and Henry Ceudo.
And he's got to win over the second best bantamweight of all time, Pyan. What does he have to do to become the goat of
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the sport? Pyan a second time.
That's a top 10 fighter. Poran on a threeight win streak a second time.
lapping the level of competition that he's lapping. If he wins once more after that, I don't care who it's against.
I mean, it kind of
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does matter who it's against, but one more after that, this is the goat. Morab is two wins away from being the GOAT of the sport.
All right, the GOAT of the sport. That would be tying Anderson Silva's 16 fight win streak.
And the
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majority of those wins would be elite wins. Of course, everyone has a long run to the title where they have to beat the Katonas and the Casey Kenny's and the Gustavo Lopez's.
The majority of his 16 fight win streak in the modern era would come from fighters
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like Pod Yan, Shaun Ali, Umar, Cejudo, Aldo, Sanhagen. You could not top this.
You just could not. And it's just not about title wins.
We're not even getting into that discussion today. All right, we're not
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even getting into that discussion. Let's talk about Alex Pereira.
I actually think he's closer than most people think to GOAT status as well. And I actually think there's an argument to be made for him being the second best light heavyweight of all time.
And a lot of people right off the bat are going to say, "Whoa, whoa, man. Way too soon.
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Daniel Cormier, bro, listen. DC, I'm going to compare his resume in a second.
Alex Pereira after beating Maggamemed and Goliath. Before he beat Maggamemed and Goliath, before he ever fought Magamed in the first place, I said that this was the top 10 fighter of all time.
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Since then, he's beat Magomed. He's one and one with him.
That's an elite win. That's a guy that hadn't been beaten for like 10 years.
And Alex Pereira, if he moves up to heavyweight and beats Jon Jones, does that make him the GOAT? well,
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wouldn't be an in-p prime version of Jones, which is why that fight [ __ ] sucks. Then people could just say it's not prime Jones.
Uh, but if he beats Jones and then Aspenol, he is the go to the sport 100%. That would not only mean that he would hold a belt in three
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weight classes, but he would have elite wins, multiple elite wins in three weight classes. I think if he beats Aspenol, that is a better win than beating Jon Jones in 2025, given that Aspenol is just a more dangerous fighter who's at the absolute peak of his prime,
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right? But if he were to beat both Jones and Aspenol, that's what it would take for Pereira to be the GOAT.
But where he stands right now, I don't think another light heavyweight win really pulls him away from the pack. I think that for Alex Pereira, who's 38 years old, the
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way this man would achieve goat of the sport status is by moving to heavyweight and winning a third belt, being the first fighter in UFC history to win a third belt against someone as dangerous, as well-rounded as Tom Aspenol. But
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you've got a freak out here like Mora Devaly. You've got an alien out here who's fighting five times a year like Morab.
Is that enough? Maybe Alex Purr's got to get his mo moment against Jon Jones as well.
So, this man might be one or two wins away depending on if this
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guy Morab continues to do what he's doing with the activity that he's having. But either way, I think he's the top 10 fighter of all time right now.
And I actually think that he's higher than Daniel Cormier. I mean, of course, I'm going to bring up Cormier because Cormier is talked about as being the
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second best light heavyweight of all time. And I think the average response to my claim that he's a better all-time fighter than Cormier would probably be met with some criticism.
It would probably be met with some push back because again, of course, Cormier has done so much in his career, double champ as well. But to kind of help you guys
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understand why I think Pereira is so high, I feel the need to compare his resume to someone like Daniel Cormier, who is still widely accepted as being someone that's a top 10 fighter of all time. Okay.
I think the average MMA fan would say DC is top 10 all time. And I
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think that they may be a little bit off today. I still think he's a top 20 fighter of all time.
But let me make the case. I think Pereira, if you're going to compare him to another one of the goats of the heavier weight classes, I think he's past someone like DC.
And that goes to show how close he is. That
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goes to show why it might only take a couple more wins, of course, extraordinary wins against people in the heavyweight division, Jones, like Aspenol, to really allow him to pull away from the pack. But let's actually look at this.
Let's actually look at this. Now, of course, a lot of Pereira's
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strength of resume comes from the fact that he was able to get some great wins at middleweight as well, some quantity at middleweight, but let's just compare these guys on the all-time list in general. Let's talk about elite wins.
Let's talk about losses. Pereira's got a win over Maaman and Goliath.
Yuri Perhaska twice. And Yuri Pasca, those
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are wins that have aged really, really well. Okay?
Because Yuri Pasca, outside of fighting Alex Pereira, has never lost in the UFC. And he's had quite a bit of fights.
Think about all of the amazing finishes, all of the amazing fights that Yuri has been a part of. He's not lost a single one of those.
Yuri Pasca has wins
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over Glover Dera, Dominic Reyes, Vulcanos Demir, Alexander Rakage, Jamal Hill, Khalil Roundtree. Yuri is an unstoppable force at light heavyweight when he's not fighting Alex Pereira.
Those are phenomenal wins. Yuri Pasca has an argument for being a top five light heavyweight of all time.
So, he's
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got a win over Maggamemed, one of the most difficult fighters to beat in the history of the light heavyweight division. He's got two wins over Yuri.
He's got a win over a former champion and defending champion, Yan Bohovich, who had two title wins. That is an amazing win.
Adosana, a win over him,
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former multipletime middleweight champion with multiple title wins. He's got a win over Shawn Strickland, former champion as well, who outside of championship fights has a lot of good wins.
And then you got decent wins like Jamal Hill and Khil Roundry. Now, why do I say decent?
Well, because let's just
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be honest, since Jamal Hill won the title, he's really just lost and his resume has fallen off quite a bit. And Khil Roundree, even though, you know, he's put up some great fights with guys like Pereira and Yuri, he's been losing them.
Now, I still look at Khil Roundree
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as an elite level fighter at light heavyweight, but his resume is not that great. Khalil has lost a lot in his career.
He doesn't have a lot of big wins outside of the Jamal Hill win. We're looking at Anthony Smith wins.
We're looking at a couple of robberies.
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We're looking at a Dawis win. However, I am not going to just write these off as other wins, mere quantity wins.
Jamal Hill, former champion, that's still a good fighter. Khalil Roundtree, say what you want about his resume, but that's still a solid fighter.
I mean, Khalil is
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a killer. You could just see that with the eye test.
And then other wins, Bruno Silva, Andreas Micus, he's got 10 wins in the UFC. That's not a whole lot, but if you actually think about it, Daniel Cormier only has 10 wins in the UFC as well.
The first thing that people are going to say when they disagree with you
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for saying Pereira's resume is better than DC's is something to the effect of, "Oh, Pereira still got a way more work to do. DC did so much more.
They've both got 10 wins." And actually, Pereira's got more elite wins than Daniel Cormier. The only thing
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that DC has over Alex Pereira is the fact that his losses are slightly more acceptable. We're talking about Jon Jones, who resume-wise, on paper is the goat of the sport in most people's eyes.
And I think
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there's still an amazing argument to be made about Jon Jones still being the goat of the sport. And DC lost to him.
We're only counting one because the other one Jones popped and we don't count that. But the first loss legit both fighters in their prime that is a acceptable loss more acceptable than
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losing to Adosana. Now still losing to Adosnagna that's nothing to scoff at.
That's not a horrible loss. He's still a phenomenal all-time great.
But the Jones loss is more acceptable. Magamemed and Golia versus Stipe.
Stipe Miocic. Despite the fact that Magamemed has an
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all-time win over Alex Pereira, that just makes his resume objectively good as well on top of the fact that he has a great ratio wins to losses. Losing to Stipe is also not that bad.
I mean, Stipe is one of the head goats. He is a top 20 fighter of all time, top 15
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fighter of all time. So, yeah, DC's loss is not as bad.
Not that Pereira's losses are bad. These are actually all acceptable losses, but I think it really comes down to the wins.
I think Pereira's strength of wins are greater
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than DC's. Stipe Miocic, that's a great win for DC.
That's a really good win, but he's one and two to Stippy. Okay.
And even though that's an all-time great win after that, I think that despite the fact that Anthony Johnson and Gusen and
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Henderson are good wins, I think that there's an argument to be made that Yuri Pasca is better than all of those wins. Yuri Pasca only has two losses and it's to one person.
Every other fight has been a win. Okay?
And he's got a good amount of them. Alexander Gustoson.
I've
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said this in the past. I think he's one of the most overrated fighters in UFC history because people will constantly bring him up as the greatest fighter to never win a belt.
And don't get me wrong, from a skill perspective, from a competition in and of itself
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perspective, sure, because he gave Jones and he gave Daniel Cormier tough fights, but his resume is actually not that strong. He actually has a ton of losses and his ratio of wins to losses are not great.
I mean, this is a guy that was losing to Anthony Smith in his early
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30s. This is a guy that in his early to mid-30s was losing to an old man verdoom at heavyweight where he's supposed to have lighter man skill.
He had lost quite a bit in his career. Yuri Brasa has a better resume.
Dan Henderson,
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great. That's a good win, but Adosnagna is a better win.
I think Yonhovich is a better win. And then after you get the Anthony Johnson, Gustoson, Dan Henderson, Stipe win out of the way where you can compare Maman and Goliath, Yuri Bhaska, Yanhovich, Adosagna, Sean
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Strickland, modern era fighters, it really falls off. Jamal Hill, Cle Roundree versus Vulcanos Demir and Anderson Silva on two days notice.
Listen, Anderson Silva all-time great, but that is not a great win for Daniel Cormier just because Anderson Silva
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taking a fight on two days notice when he's 41 years old has absolutely no [ __ ] chance to get a victory there. How is that a good win?
A good win is measured by how difficult is it for you to beat this guy? Someone taking a fight on Tuesday's notice when they're 41 years old.
Come on. Like, I know
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Anderson Silva is an all-time great. I I just don't count that as an elite win.
I'm sorry. Sorry.
I just I can't. Derrick Lewis, Pat, what are you saying, man?
Derrick Lewis the knockout king, man. Yeah, but he's also got [ __ ] 50% losses, dude.
Patrick Cummings, Roy
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Nelson, Frank Mir. Like, these are good wins.
And do you even count Big Knock? Big Knock?
The dinosaurs of the Strikeforce era? I'm sorry.
I don't even know if we can count big. All right, maybe we can, but h these just aren't strong winds.
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They're they're old washed up former champions like you know but they're old. Frank Mir was an old head.
Roy Nelson, come on man. What are you saying, man?
Roy Nelson came in there with a pop belt, man. Roy Nelson has some pop.
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Roy Nelson has a pop, dude. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
I think Pereira's resume is better. I'm sorry that people act like DC has like 70 wins in the UFC.
Okay. Stipe Motic.
phenomenal. Anthony Johnson, that's a good win, but we're not talking about on the level of Yuri
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Bhaska or Adosana. Alexander Gusen, dude, Yuri's resume is way better.
Oagna Strickland's Strickland has a better resume than Gusen. I think Pereira is two wins away.
I think he's two wins away from being the GOAT. All right, we also got to talk
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about this man right here, Ilia. With a couple more wins, this guy could be the goat of the sport.
Again, there's an arms race. We got to see how these other guys do.
And if everyone continues to win, like I guess they all kind of stay in the same same position. But the only
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guys that are getting really booted out are the old heads that are retired. That's kind of who's going to lose in this situation.
And this is a point that I want to make. GSP, Jones, Silva, Mighty Mouse, they're retired.
They're done. They cannot improve on their resumes.
Whereas
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all of these fighters who are very close to goat status already, they're continuing to fight. They're all people that are going to have four or five more fights, six, seven more fights in their career.
How are you going to deny that these guys are going to pass the old guard? Can Can we [ __ ] stop with
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this? No, man.
They got to wait because uh you know, you have no freaking You have no explanation for why they can't pass the old guard. All right, let's talk about Ilia Taporia.
I Tapori is taking the speedrun
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path to goat status, right? He's only got nine fights in the UFC, and there's only so much of a strong argument you can make for someone that has nine fights and that's it.
Ilia is going to have to
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beat the GOATs in order to become the GOAT. And you know what?
He's already been doing that. He already has two top 10 fighters of all time on his resume.
You know, you know, it's so funny. I It's like people say, "Bro, there's like 80 people in Lucas' top 10." There kind
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of are, but like I really think if we narrow it down on my next real goat video where I actually rank them, there won't be 80 people. There'll only be 10.
But let's look at this resume. Damon Jackson, Ryan Hall, Jai Herbert.
I mean, those are whatever wins. Those are the kind of wins that anyone that's had some
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bit of a career in the UFC has. But then you get to the good wins.
Josh Emtt, Bryce Mitchell, Ysef Salal. These are solid wins.
Bryce Mitchell, outside of losing to Taporia, to Gene Silva, to Josh Emtt, has a ton of wins. He's got like 10 wins in the UFC, half of which
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are against decent levels of opponents. Guys like again, Sidner Magamemedov, Edson Barboszi, Dan Eay.
Bryce Mitchell has a legit record in the UFC. That's a solid winning fighter.
It's a good win. Ysef Salal, rough patch early on in his
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career, but he's looking like a future champion. Ysef Salal is an elite level featherweight today.
That win has aged phenomenally. And also, we get to the elite wins.
Max Holloway, top 10 fighter of all time,
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unbelievable resume. Charles Olivivera after his recent win against Gameamrot, that win has only aged even better.
All right. People were saying Olivivera is washed up and maybe he's not at his absolute peak, but you know what?
Judging by the last performance, that was vintage Olivivera. That was like Olivivera era era.
Olivivera era era.
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That was Olivivera era. Olivivera.
Unbelievable version of Olivivera showed up to be Gamrod. Since Olivera has been a rookie, he's got like two losses on his resume.
Makashev, Taptoria, Arman, that's it.
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He's got a fuckload of good wins. He's the top 25 fighter of all time.
Max Holloway, top 10 fighter of all time. Alexander Vulcganowski.
Since Vulcganowski broke a record and became the first fighter in history to win a belt at the age of 35 and older in the
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lighterweight classes and since his win over Diego Lopez has aged well. Another unbelievable win.
That's a top five fighter of all time in Alexander Vulcganowski. Ilia Taporia.
I don't think I Taporeia is going to be able to become the GOAT of the sport with more
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regular wins in the lightweight division. Right?
If he beats Justin Gi next, that's a great win. It's not making him the GOAT.
Whereas, if Morab just beats Pota Jan a second time, dude, that could be the second best fighter ever. You may just have to say Morab's number two all time right then and there.
I think for Ilia Tori, he's
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really taking the speedrun path. I think he's got to take out Islam Makashev.
He's got to move up and fight one of those guys at welterweight and win a belt. If he can do something like that and become the second or I'm sorry I say second because I just talked about Alex Pereira, but if I instead of
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Pereira becomes the only fighter in history to win a belt in three classes, okay, he's the goat with this level of competition. I mean, it's one thing for Pereira to do it against middleweights, light heavyweights, and heavyweights.
If Taporia can do it in the best three divisions in the UFC, forget about it, right? But that's probably not going to
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happen. for Ilia to become the go to the sport.
Realistically again, maybe it's Makashev one more time at lightweight. Even if Makashev loses to JDM and drops back down, even though recently he said he's never coming back down, despite the fact that Makashev
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would have a loss on his record there, that doesn't change the fact that Makashev still has a top five fighter resume of all time right now. That is a win that in my opinion could be good enough to right then and there say, you know what, quality over quantity.
This
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is just unbelievable. Like he is the best fighter of all time.
I think Ilia is the best fighter of all time regardless. But the greatest best resume, I don't know.
Maybe that wouldn't even be enough. If he beats Makashev and he beats Arman Seryukian,
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I think it's without a doubt this is the greatest fighter of all time. for Makashev.
Let's talk about Makashev because this is another fighter that is very close if not the second best fighter of all time. So I actually think for Islam he is the closest to GOAT status.
Okay.
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If Islam Makashev beats JDM at UFC 322, I think he is the go to the sport. I think Machev is the closest.
Now again, it's hot potato season and you've got Morab who's fighting every other month and he could
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just continue to do what he's doing and he could leave Islam Makashev in the dust and he could just blow everyone out of the water and become the goat. But for Makashev, given that he has the next title fight out of all these guys, I think if he beats JDM, he's the goat.
And I think people need to get more
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comfortable with the idea of the goat of the sport changing because ultimately it's about resume. It's not about, oh well, you know, we we got to wait till it's all said and done just because we need to wait to see how we feel about it.
The feel, no, it's not a feelings thing. It's actually there's something objective about the way that we determine this.
Back in the day, people
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would say whoever has the most title wins is the GOAT. Why?
Because a title win signifies that you're beating good levels of competition. These days, it's harder to get to the belt and you end up beating title defense level of fighters on the way to the belt.
So, it's just a little bit different, right? Back in the day, people started out, they'd make
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their debut in a title fight. And so, of course, they got 10 wins in a row.
They had 10 title defenses. But the point that I'm making here is if Moxev beats Jack Dela Matalena, resume-wise, no one can compete.
Alexander Vulcanowski, elite win, top five fighter of all time,
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that win has only aged even better. And think about it like this.
We talk about how well Taporia's wins have aged. Max Holloway since he lost to Ilia, got a win.
Olivivera since the loss got to win. Vulcanoski since the loss got to win.
It's been the same for Makaja. Vulcganoski he beat him twice since
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then. Vulcganowski or he's beat yay Rodriguez and he beat Diego Lopez.
The Yayer fight was right after Islam's first win against Vulk. The Diego Lopez fight was after the second win against Vulk.
Charles Olivera since Islam Maksha beat Charles Olivera wins over Gamro
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wins over Chandler wins over Benil Darush. So that's another unbelievable win.
that's aged really well. Dustin Porier.
I think there's an argument for Porier being a top 30 fighter of all time. That's an amazing win.
One of the top 30 best fighters ever. Now, we got
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to talk about it. I don't think you can say that Vulcganowski in the rematch was a great win.
I honestly give that the same amount of credit as I give DC credit for beating Anderson Silva, 41 years old, on two days notice. And even though Vulk wasn't 41 on two days
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notice, it was a week's notice. He was coming off of an arm surgery.
Like this guy was in a sling. I don't think people understand Vulcanowski was in a sling.
He was in an arm sling. Okay, you understand what I'm saying?
In an arm sling. Fat.
Like actually fat as
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[ __ ] The worst kind of weight cut you could ever have as well. So, I'm sorry.
Vulk had absolutely no chance to win that. I'm not counting that as like an all-time great win.
I'm going to count that as a whatever win. Okay, maybe an okay win, but come on, dude.
Vulk on a
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[ __ ] week's notice fat coming off of an arm surgery. Give me a break if you count that as an all-time great win.
Doesn't change the fact that he got an all-time great win against in prime version of Alexander Vulcanowski that had never lost in the UFC. The first person ever to beat Vulk when Vulk had lighter men still moving up a weight
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class where he had seven months to prepare. that decision even though it was competitive I think Makashev 4-1 dude unbelievable win and he's got a lot of other good wins like Renato Moano Dan Hooker Arman Surikian now the Arman
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fight to be fair Arman's UFC debut on a week's notice you know it is what it is he wasn't fat off the couch it wasn't two days notice 41year-old Anderson Silva but that's you know not a win that I'm going to count as an elite win just because of the version of Arman that it was but it's a decent win and it's aged
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phenomenally really well. Bobby Green, Drew Dober, decent wins.
Other wins, Thiago Moyes, Davy Ramos, Glacon Toba, Chris Wade, Leon Kun. Okay, now we're literally just getting into UFC 5 CPU fighters in career mode.
Kajan
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Johnson, right? And then of course he's got the loss to Pantoia, right?
Back in the day, he's got that loss as well. But one loss when he himself was a rookie, when he himself was a tadpole, not a bad loss.
15-1. That wintoloss ratio is
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unbelievable. If he can get a win over a in prime JDM who's a champion in the welterweight division who is extremely skilled and become a champion in the second weight class against that level of competition and Jack Dela Matalena who
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everyone has a tremendous amount of respect for because we just know how good he is. I think that that quality would be unbelievable.
The quantity would be unbelievable. 16 wins, tying Anderson Silva's all-time great win streak, but doing it in the lightweight division, adding a welterweight champion
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onto there in the modern era as well. This would be the greatest fighter of all time.
But let's also look at Alexandri Pento. This is another fighter that I think is very close to being the goat of his division.
Now, I don't think Pentoia is nearly as close to being the goat of the sport like Morab Devalish
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Vely, right? But I do think one more win makes him the flyweight goat.
And again, I we have to get past this idea that this guy has to defend his belt 20 times in the modern era. That's just ridiculous.
Okay, let's look at these wins. Brandon Moreno twice.
Brandon Roy
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Val twice. Four elite wins right there.
Then you've got some other really solid wins. Kai Cara France, Steve, Minnell Cap.
People forget, man. But that's a fight that people forget.
Mel Cap. That is an amazing win.
Ka Sukuda, question
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mark. I mean, is that really a great win?
I don't know. His resume, like who has he really beat?
Maybe you could put that as another win. But Alex Perez, I think if you look at Perez's resume up until he fought Alexander Pintoia, that was a good win at the time.
Okay, really
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good win. And then he's got quantity.
Matt Schnell, Wilson Reyes, Uta Sasaki, Neil Siri, Eric Shelton. We're getting to the CPUs, but he's got some losses as well.
Davidson, Figaredo, Ascar, Ascarov, Dustin Ortiz. But we're going to compare
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these because I said in my opinion, I think they're tied right now. I don't think Pentosia is the flyweight goat at the moment.
But if he beats Joshua Van, 2025 elite level fighter Joshua Van, who just took out elite Brandon Royal, he's the flyweight goat. Let's compare these
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resumes. DJ's elite wins.
Cejudo Benvdz twice. Those are great wins.
Pantosia, Moreno twice, Brandon Royal twice. I think Brandon Moreno's resume has aged a lot better since he lost to
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Pentosia last as well. I mean, think about it.
He had that schooling performance over Amir Albazi. He had that win over Steve Ersk as well.
And Brandon Moreno, couple of wins over Davidson Figaredo, one of the greatest flyweights of all time. Brandon Mareno has a great resume.
I actually think the
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elite wins are pretty similar. I know Cejudo has the double champ status, but I actually think his resume is very similar to Moreno.
Good wins. This is where Pentosia pulls ahead.
Kai Cara France, Steve Ersk, Minnell Cap, Alex Perez versus John Dodson twice in Kyoji
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Huruguchi. Kyoji Huraguchi making his UFC return soon.
Looking forward to that. He actually had a pretty good resume in the UFC.
And then you're looking at the other wins. And here's the one thing.
I know people are about to freak out about this because you're probably about to hear me say Adriana Morice is another win. Let me just say
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this. Adrian Morice, yes, he beat Demetrius Johnson.
That in and of itself is very impressive. Okay, he actually lost his most recent fight in 1FC.
He got KO'ed, I believe. And if you look at his record in 1FC, it's not
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that impressive. He hasn't beaten that many great fighters.
Now, the fact that he beat DJ, it's kind of like Maggaman and Goliath beating Alex Pereira. Okay, you know what?
I'll put that in good wins. I'm just not necessarily ready to say Adriano Marice is an all-time great fighter or as elite as Brandon Moreno or
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Brandon Royal because again this is a guy where even in 1FC FC he's not like the goat of 1FC. But let's get to the other wins.
Ali Bugatinov, Chris Carousell, Tim Elliot, Wilson Reyes, Ray Borg, John Maraga, Ian McCall, Miguel Torres, Norafumi Yamamoto. We're getting
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to the CPUs versus Matt Neell, Wilson Reyes, Uta Susaki, Neil Siri, Eric Shelton, Kjun Johnson, and also we can't pretend that DJ has no losses. I know that when people think about Demetrius Johnson's UFC career, they think undefeated, never been beat.
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It's not true. He lost to Cejudo.
Close fight. Fair enough.
But he also lost to Dominic Cruz. He lost to Brad Picket.
Yes, very early on in his career, but he also had a draw with Ian McCall. And sure, these are not big losses.
A lot of them very early on in his career, but he
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still has a couple of losses. And he also lost to Adriana Morice.
I don't know why it says two [ __ ] losses there. He lost once to Adriana Morice.
Now, here's what I'll say. If Pentosia wins two more, it's something you cannot doubt, right?
Joshua Van, maybe then you
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can make the argument, okay, they're tied neck andneck even. If he wins two more, I don't think there's an argument for DJ being the flyweight goat anymore.
Okay, let's get on to a couple other fighters. Vulk, we're not doing a goat video without
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mentioning Vul. All right, Vulcganowski, since beating Diego Lopez, that win is aged even better.
Diego Lopez just beat Gene Silva. Gene Silva was someone that the majority of people picked.
We know how good he is using the eye test. How
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good has that win aged? I think that since Diego Lopez beat Gene Silva, that makes him an elite win.
That makes him elite. Before that, you could say, "Okay, it's a good win." I don't know if you could say elite, all-time great win.
Listen, I'm not saying Lopez is an all-time great fighter, but he beat Gene
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Silva. Outside of his one other loss, which was on short notice to Mobarv, he's taken out a lot of really good fighters.
Dan Eay, Brian Ortega, now Jean Silva, right? He knocked out Sadiq Ysef with absolute ease.
I mean, Max
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Holloway three times. Come on, man.
Come on, bro. >> Come on, man.
They don't have the money. >> Like, I actually think the Holloway wins are actually, if anything, underrated because Max Holloway is a [ __ ] nightmare for a guy like Vulcganowski to have to fight again after again after
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again cuz think about it like this. Granite Chin, you can't put him away.
Vulcganowski, someone that doesn't have absolute dynamite in his hands, you're just not going to be able to get the knockout. You have to win the vast majority of 15 rounds, right?
And you don't have to just prove it
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once. You just proved it once.
Okay, do it again on your worst night. Melatonic Gate, do it again.
You got to do it twice. That's not enough.
Do it again. Oh, you beat Max Holloway twice, he's in his prime.
Okay, do it again. This guy was just in that
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circumstance where the world, the universe was saying, "Oh, that's a great win. Max Holloway all-time win.
Let's see if he can do it again. No chance to finish this guy.
Best volume striker in UFC history. Proved by statistics.
Most significant strikes landed ever. This
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guy did it three times. You can't fluke that [ __ ] Okay.
Every single one of those wins is an all-time great win. Diego Lopez Vulk coming off of two brutal KO losses in a row at the age of
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36. Not 35, 36.
We talk about how impressive it is to be the first fighter in UFC history to break the 35 curse. Vulk did it after two KO losses in a row.
Since then, Diego Lopez beat Gene Silva, who was one win away from a title fight,
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who has a fuckload of potential, who is extremely skilled and dangerous. Diego Lopez could go on to become a featherweight champion.
He probably will. That's going to be like the 145 version of Olivivera.
And then you've got Jose Aldo who was on a two-ight win
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streak when Vulk beat him. Years before Aldo went on a streak and was in a position to be one fight away from a title at bantamweight.
Vulk beat him years before that. On a win streak when Aldo was 32 years old.
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Come on. Then you've got Yaya Rodriguez, TKZ, Brian Ortega, Chad Mendes.
Yeah, it's nothing. Yeah, just Chad Mendes, man.
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It's nothing, man. People will talk about McGregor's resume being really good, right?
And they'll always mention Chad Mendes. They'll talk about Aldo, by the way.
Chad Mendes twice, man. Chad Mendes twice.
Those are just regular dagular wins for Vulk. Yeah, man.
Yeah, you're Chad
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Mendes. No biggie.
Yep. No biggie.
Oh, and you've also got Brian Ortega, TKZ, uh Darren Elkins. Darren Elkins is on a six fight win streak going into that one.
And then
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you've got other ones, man. What do you know about Jeremy Kennedy, Shane Young, Mizuto Heruto?
In fact, real hardcores know this. What do you know about Yuk Casuya?
Upper weight class 155. Yeah.
No, I'm joking. I'm joking around.
Those
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are throwaway wins, but hey, everyone's got those losses to two top 10 fighters of all time that
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were both discussed in this video because how great the resumes are. One of which is the most statistically permissible loss in UFC history.
That is Islam Makv on a week's notice
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coming off of the couch fat off of an arm surgery where Vulk was walking around in a [ __ ] sling. I don't even really put I don't even put
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a grain of salt into that. Okay.
I'm not I don't even have to take that with a grain of salt. I'll take it with a [ __ ] dust particle.
All right, Ilia Taporia. All right, I can deal with it.
I can deal with it. It's not a bad loss.
Look at what Ilia is going to go on to do.
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And that's not to say that Vulcanowski is going to pull away from Ilia if Ilia continues to win. Ilia will always have that over him, right?
But still, Islam Makashev, the first loss, which was legit. That was Vulcganowski at his absolute peak.
Lighter man skill,
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improved chin, moving up a weight class. Confidence of an undefeated fighter right in his backyard as well.
That's a legit loss. Credit to Islam Makashev.
But it's Makashev, man. That's a top five fighter of all time who I just talked about as being one win away from
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being the goat of the [ __ ] sport. That's about to be the new Daniel Cormier loss to Jon Jones.
That's about to be the new loss to Jon Jones where you can say, "Oh, he lost to Jones, but that's the goat. It's not a bad loss." Yeah, he lost to Makashev.
It's not that bad. Vulcganowski, in my opinion, is a top
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five fighter of all time right now. Especially strengthened by the fact that he beat Diego Lopez recently.
That strengthens it even more. This is a top five fighter all time right now.
What does he need to do to become the go to the sport? And again, we'll see what
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happens with Machev and JDM. Maybe he loses, right?
We'll see what happens with Ilia Taporia's career. We'll see what happens with Morab.
But if those guys just chill and stop fighting or maybe lose, whatever. Vulcganowski cuz cuz we're in an arms
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race. If everyone continues to win, Vulk just has to keep adding more and more and more like everyone else has to keep adding more and more.
But in my opinion, if Vulk goes out there in his next fight and beats Mavzar Evvloev or Laurone Murphy, two undefeated fighters on long
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win streaks, there's no more argument for GSP being higher than him. I don't think anymore you can make an argument for GSP being higher than Vulk right now.
But if he wins a second title fight at the age of 37, breaking the 35 curse again, even though the 35 curse is
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losing its cursiness, right? The point that I'm making here is if he does that again, top three fighter without a doubt.
If he wins one more after that, go to the sport. Now again, again, people are going to be laughing.
Well,
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you just talked about these. Yeah, I know.
If Makashev wins against JDM, Vul has to get three more. I understand how it works.
I'm just saying we got to talk about how amazing this resume is as well. I'm sorry, but you know, you just can't be bringing up DC or, you know,
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GSP. Like, even Jon Jones, if Vulk gets two more wins, even Jon Jones can't compete with that anymore unless he comes back and fights Alex Pereira and beats him.
That kind of thing. But the the big point that I want to make here is that Jones, GSP, Mighty, Silva, Aldo, Daniel
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Cormier, even Habib is still talked about in these conversations. We have a new top five.
10 years ago, GSP, Jones, Mighty, these guys were all competing actively, right? They were at these points of their
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careers. So why would it be any different?
Because 10 years ago, that's when the Jones George St. Pierre mighty Mouse goat conversation started.
Why is it that we're going to prioritize the guys of the past and allow them to be the goats of the sport because of all of
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the things they had accomplished back then, but these guys can't? Like, it makes no sense to me.
You don't get mythical points, okay? You don't get [ __ ] nostalgia points or mythical points.
Oh, well, people that became the go to the sport in the first 20 years of the sport, they automatically cannot be
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passed. I don't think we we should hold a double standard.
These guys are achieving what those guys achieved and more. They should be the [ __ ] goats.
All right. And last but not least, let's talk about my argument for Pota Yan because I am going to make a goat video in the future.
And this guy will probably be top 10 if I make it before
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he loses to Morab. If he does lose to Morab because I think he will.
But if he beats Morab, by the way, he's top five. If Pyota Jan beats Morab, who in my opinion is the top five fighter of all time.
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I know, I know. Oprah is like 50 top five people.
No, but like really, Morab is the top five fighter of all time right now. If P if Por Jan beats Morab, he's a top five fighter of all time, he absorbs that resume.
This is my argument for my Jan as the
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top 10 fighter though and at the very least top 15 fighter of all time. Okay, you have to count the Aljamain Sterling first fight as a win.
I don't think you can just count that as a you can never count that as a loss right off the bat.
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You do not get to say Aljo has two wins over Pod Jan. That's disingenuous.
Okay, we don't give someone a win over someone because they are losing a fight for four rounds. It'd be one thing if the illegal knee happened in the first round, maybe even the second round.
It happened at the end of the fourth round
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where Yan was up 3-1. He was going to win the fifth.
Let's not sit there and act like we can't give this guy credit for beating Aljma Sterling. Both of those fighters went into that fight and fought for 19 minutes.
We saw two of the best bantamweights in the world after an
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entire training camp. There was no short notice [ __ ] fight for 19 minutes.
I am not going to discard that because of one technique. He threw a knee.
Now I have to disregard everything I saw. Jan that night proved that he was the best
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bantamweight on earth in a [ __ ] MMA fight that was cut short at 19 minutes. I agree with the decision to not give him the belt after that.
I agree. I understand why the UFC couldn't give Yan the belt.
I get it. He there has to be
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some kind of a repercussion, a consequence for doing an illegal move like that. You're no longer the champ.
You're no longer getting champ money. You're no longer defending that belt.
Great. Okay.
I don't have a problem with that. With the way that we look at fighting, we determine how good you are
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based on how you're performing against other elite fighters. You got to give him credit for that.
Okay. Shauna Ali.
That's another controversial one because again people are going to make the argument that yeah well if you just give him credit for beating people he lost to. It's disingenuous to suggest that he lost to Aljamain Sterling.
It just is.
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It's not a serious argument. I'm sorry.
It's just not okay. Shaun Ali we have a different conversation.
We have a different conversation cuz some people do think Shauna Ali won that fight which is why I have a question mark there. What I think I can say about that is that that was how you can kind of look
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at a draw. I think a lot of people, most people thought Jan won the fight.
When I've watched that fight back, I still give Yan the credit. I still think Yan won that fight and I still think most people would agree with that.
But we're not going to just appeal to what most people would think. You have to be as objective as possible.
There is a legit
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argument for Ali, even though I don't think it's a very strong one. I'm not going to look at that as a loss.
Maybe we can write it off as a draw. So maybe we can change this to 12 2 and one.
Right? I don't have a problem with that.
I don't have a problem with that. But
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let's actually think about it. Outside of Jan's loss to Aljmaine Sterling in the rematch, which was a legit loss, and Morab Dvales Villi, who is a top five fighter of all time, he's done nothing but win.
Jose Aldo, a good version of
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him when Aldo was what, 33, 34. Al Jermaine Sterling, top five bantamweight of all time.
Davidson Figeredo, solid win. Former flyweight champion.
He was on a three-ight win streak on the verge of getting a title fight at the time. That was an amazing win.
Cory Sanhagen,
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prime Sanhagen as well. Amazing win for Pota Jan.
Song Yong, that is a staple in the top 10 bantamweight division in the modern era. Sydong will continue to be a staple in the top 10 in the bantamweight division for a while.
And then Shauna
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Ali, maybe you count that as a draw, whatever. He's also got other good wins like Marcus McGee, Jimmy Rivera, John Dodson.
Those are decent wins. Uriah Faber, Douglas Silva, Deandraj, Jins Suan, Tutoto Ishihara.
Okay, whatever. Those are throwaway wins.
Uriah Faber. I
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think that this is the second best bantamweight of all time. I think that Pod Yan objectively has a better resume than Dominic Cruz.
Sanhagen, Sterling, Aldo, Figgy, Song Dong. You got to at least admit this guy's top 15 of all time with this
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resume. All right, you've got to at least admit he's top 15.
But if this guy beats Morab, that is a top five fighter of all time right now in the modern era on the verge of goat status. If Jan wins that rematch, we're off to the races.
Kota Yan
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is in the top 10. He's knocking on top five door.
Anyway, hope you guys enjoyed the video. Until next time.