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Maybe we can talk about what we are taking and get opinions. So each one of you has a different theory of what works, right?
I can go first. I take vitamin D, omega3, uh, chiligit, ashwagandha, I
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don't know what your thoughts are. Would love to know.
And magnesium at night. Have you measured your omega your omega levels?
Can you measure your omega levels? Yeah.
So we will be so it's in the US there's omega quan does that but in in India biopic will be okay
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so you're saying constantly measure my levels to take exactly I wouldn't take anything unless you measure it ironically enough that's what you were saying as well yeah I mean some of the things you can't measure directly for example magnesium right a lot of people rely on blood test
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for magnesium which is not the right way you should rely on you know dexa for that. So because over a period of time body's homeostasis would leech out magnesium and other minerals from your bones and still maintain your uh you know blood concentration.
So sometimes
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those things can like incorrectly show that you have sufficient magnesium but might not. No.
How how often do you measure? Uh which which one?
How uh uh all the blood markers? Uh blood's like once every month or two.
But yeah, we do thousands of measurements every month
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across everything. Imaging, blood, methylation, like what should I measure?
Like if I could do only like five tests, yeah, what should I measure in my body? I mean the easiest thing to do is blood.
Okay. And what am I looking for in blood?
Uh it depends on how advanced you
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want to get. You can get very robust like a 100 panel 100 variable panel of blood.
You can do very basic of like 12 to 15. So like take your pick on how advanced you want to become.
If you want to become more sophisticated, you could do after that you could do some epigenetic testing. So you can see uh
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your speed of aging or the age of your organs according to DNA methylation patterns. You could do a full body MRI looking for bad stuff like cancer, tumors, but also baselining your your organs with the biological age.
Uh you can do a microplastics test. We just did that as a company.
So, you can do a
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finger prick and see the microplastics in your in your bloodstream. And then there's a whole bunch of other like there's endless tests.
You can do a microbiome test. You can do like a whole bunch of stuff.
So, and if you were to suggest five supplements, I know it's a generalization for the average 25 year
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old, what are the supplements they should be on most often? Yeah, it's what they're deficient in, right?
always start with the deficiencies as the the most powerful longevity supplements. This is the big one.
Everybody will I know we're all taking different things.
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Even though JC might say no in all his head, I know he's I'm not I'm not taking anything. I can go on record and tell you guys I'm not taking anything.
I was looking through a bag and I found this growth hormone meal.
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I didn't bring it back. No, I think supplements will continue to be a huge business.
Yeah. Yeah.
Unfortunately, yes. It's going to be a huge business because what should one do?
I don't logic sense. Again, I'm going back to
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you know JC will agree that you have to measure right and that's but without measuring what would you recommend? Vitamin D.
No, no, no. vitamin D based on the generic data set of Indian based on generic I I think most of us have
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this vitamin D plus K deficiency right I mean that combination you can't go wrong at a broad level omega3 omega3 also for most of us I think but again omega3 I feel you should measure I think at some point
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we need to be able to really measure and say what is good I mean how many units of omega C I have two capsules. Yes.
Yeah. So I don't know is why is two good enough, right?
Maybe it should be one, maybe it should be five. Uh so I think five is too much, one is too
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little. So just so so we're all we're like guesstimating and we're taking some broad but magnesium seems to be something that's uh everybody agrees on magnesium.
Yeah. I mean it does help most of because the number of uh I was
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talking about give us the fancy stuff push. I know you take some fancy stuff.
See, I I think um I've found uh that there's enough data on uh lutein and zeazanthin for your eyes. What?
Lutin and zeazanthin. We just don't get enough
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of it in our diets. It's for your eyes.
For your eyes and once you're in the 40s and 50s, I think you take it every day. Take it every day.
uh and there's enough uh um I mean research data on on on that spec on these specific uh ones unlike NM
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unlike NMN and some of these other things we discussed NMN you take every day no I don't take uh I don't NAC you take I take I take uh see I I I take creatin I think creatin if you are exercising uh and u again widely studied
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uh enough data on creatin and if you are 50 plus I think it is beneficial you should do creative right so I'm telling you things that I I know that there is data on right uh uh I like pressure on
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uh there is no data on collagen he says no supplements everything you're saying is no no I mean like most of the longevity supplements these are not longevity these are yeah so NAC uh I think there is some data NA's
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precursor to glutathione. Yeah, glut glutathione.
I mean if I take glutathione IV maybe once in a month along with but there's not enough data vitamins I take something called mega just glutathione. So there is uh uh some decent data on astroanthin astra a a
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dazanthin aanthin which is for your skin right it's an antioxidant but it seems to have the one of the enough data I mean I would say I would say in a data or oral supplement uh like if creatin
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and some of these are like nine on 10 I would say this is like seven on 10 in terms of you know the thing with ivy it feels like you're doing something like popping a tablet doesn't feel enough when somebody comes pokes a hole in you and there's a bag if you
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throw one in your watch drop drop you feel like you've done something so so the one funny supplements at neutropics right like Ashwagandha I have found zero use for myself right you're going to get a lot of hate for this by the way I know I know let them I mean but no that's
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what I'm saying ash and this I go back to saying where you know every supplement is not for everyone right it's not like ashwagandha I mean just because hubman says ashwagandha is good
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doesn't mean that everybody if if it works for you yeah not even shiljit no I I don't take I have people who have been in this house earlier today swear by it practical experience great I mean if it works for them that's great right but I'm I'm not I'm not using chiljit right all shiljit studies are funded by
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the company that makes shiljit formulation primer V don't they say they find it on some rock in the mountain and all I mean all you have to ask them what exactly is there in shilajit falic acid yes and what part of the HPDA access is
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it uh helping is it helping your hypothalamus is it helping your luteinizing hormone is it affecting your FSH how exactly that's mechanis I think in some of this the mechanisms itself is the problem right we don't know the mechanisms I Imagine see collagen the
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there's like I mean most studies again have failed very few collagen studies have succeeded uh I like prashant more and more yeah and there is there is uh you know uh it it's a very poor protein
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if you if you're taking it to complement your protein will it do any harm for you I don't think so you can spend money on it and be happy but it's not going to do much right now there's not enough Collagen production is also gene regulated. So you taking oral collagen
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is not going to be the same as it's getting in your gut. It's getting because you taking creatin.
Now creatin has a specific creatin specific receptors that help creatin you know go through the cell membrane. So CRT uh
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receptors but collagen if you if you just take collagen it'll end up in your bloodstream but it will not affect any of these things. Yeah, it's not even not getting into any cell membrane.
It's it's not and what you are getting is basically essential amino acids which
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your body can automatically produce when in times of need. So you taking collagen supplementation is not going to in any way any way meaningfully increase the production of collagen that's completely determined by collagen specific genes
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which again are determined basis your lifestyle and you know other epigenetic factors. What else?
What else? Uh I think top of the stack uh I think these are the best.
I do do some um
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postbiotics, prebiotics, uh u inulin. You were telling me the other day prebiotics are as important as Yeah, prebiotics are as important, right?
Uh so and I think there it depends on how much fiber you are otherwise consuming.
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Do you want to supplement some fiber if you just can't eat that much fiber? But it just it depends on your your nutritional value.
But I think uh it's a slightly more complex thing this prebiotics, postbiotics. Um but I think
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uh it's it's it's something that I would definitely put some effort on. I think here uh I'd just like to flag that and this I mean I went through this uh because of the tropical environment
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we are in and all kinds of food that we eat uh yeast in our gut is a very common thing among Indians and we all uh I mean how do we fix it? We keep taking antacids and we think that's the way to
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solve our gut problem. But actually you got to and it's called candida right I don't know if you've heard of candida uh right it's it's a type of yeast and very very common in all of us uh if so the uh
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the extra bloating that you feel uh all of it is because of this candida yeast in uh and there's a little bit of that in everybody but when it overtakes and it also compromises your membrane your gut membrane it kind of leads to other
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complications but I think I would uh uh just not worry about just general gut micro. So what do you do for this candid candid candid what do you do for it?
you you need to go to a good uh I mean there are
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few places I I mean in India that will of course at some point u you know many more places but getting a credible gut microbiome screening place is also difficult in India but if you find a good one then they'll be able to detect
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candida so the other question is uh when it comes to omega supplements right uh the algae versus uh fish oil mm I constantly go back and forth. Krill oil, huh?
Krill oil, too. Oh, krill oil.
I
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don't know. Kill is a fish, right?
No, krill is not a fish. Yeah, it is.
Uh, it is. I thought Yeah, krill oil.
It is a kind of fish oil. So, I think algae is the only plant-based uh uh omega supplement.
Uh not enough data uh or as
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much data as fish oil. And fish oil everybody says gets rancid.
Uh you know it's going to not if you have it right after food. No, no, no, no.
Rancid as in the cap the see one is the source of your body or no no outside you don't
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know if what you're eating is already rancid and you don't know the source of that and how much mercury was there in that fish right so it's a little bit of I'm like always uh still struggling with finding the right so I think somebody
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for India is there a brand of supplements you tr trust like I feel like there's a huge opportunity here for somebody to display the testing and give you the supplements. I think Brian was speaking about the uh when it comes to food, right?
And me and Nan were also
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talking about it recently. I think there is a huge opportunity for a brand that can be out and open on the lab testing they have done.
And the problem is what is that credible lab that you will uh base
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your I think the first thing any company should do is get a spectrometer like every I mean you can't you have to get lab inhouse because as long as you're getting tested you mean at home you're saying no inhouse as in the distribution
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the distribution because you want to be testing you know at a certain frequency and you can't do it if you send it outside and and not just with supplements even with food as in just to be like I question every single thing
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that you have at home. Eto is expensive.
No but supplementation he wants to now start growing his own vegetables. So no but supplements in India I think huge question.
Yeah. Yeah.
So they don't come from like they're not engineered.
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They're not they're not like home bred because even if you talk about whey protein it's not that we have whey protein companies in India you know like besides Amu I don't think we're just importing we are importing everything and when it comes to whey protein we're just mixing stuff labeling it and
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selling it and most of the manufacturing happens by the same set of guys. So yeah testosterone same exogenous testosterone.
First of all, it shuts down your natural testosterone, right? So, if you are
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willing to go through testosterone replacement therapy every year, I think if if it works for you, sure, it can provide you vitality, it can make you feel great, it works for But what are the what have you seen uh
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to kind of increase it? Uh it will increase your cardiovascular risk.
And how do you take it? Oral supplement?
No. No.
Hormones need to be injected. Like most of these hormones will have to be injected orally.
They will not be like by all this tonkata and all of that
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nonsense. No, no data.
No data. Cordicps.
Yeah. They don't work.
Some of these human types talk about it. Tonkatali.
He does. Tongutali and fluia.
So Huberman also has a conflict of interest because AGI promises they have
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all of these things and Huberman has an investment in AGI. No no no AG1 doesn't really have this Tongaali and uh Poshia doesn't AG1 is is a is essentially a a vitamin and a mineral.
No that's like your like green juice the green juice
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which has your all the micronutrients. It is it's more micronutrient.
I mean, the problem uh Brian had was the fact that they're paying influencers quite a bit. Uh so if if you're selling something of $100 and you're paying $20
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forever to the influencer, but then Brian stuff is also very expensive. It's not cheap.
So that's what I wanted. It's very But then he said that what goes into it, he's open sourced open sourced.
Isn't AG1 like that? No, no.
A1
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no. KG1 has this other problem, right?
They don't tell you what exactly is the I mean that is a problem. Okay.
So, final takeaways. I think we've recorded for near 5 hours.
Wow. 4 hours.
4 hours. No.
No. S wasn't joking when he told me
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that the podcast went on for 5 hours. It's short takeaways in the sense a outside of the supplements you mentioned.
First thing I want to know is there something you're taking that he's not? So I'm only taking vitamin
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B12 and I'm taking finestride. Finestride is it's it's for hair basically.
So if you have a which is androgenic alopeesia so male pattern that's actually interesting question. Is there something for hair to reverse balding?
No not reverse. Finestride does
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what? It it basically to protect what you have DHT blocker minoxidil.
Minoxidil is more like caffeine. you know, it will stimulate hair follicles.
Yeah. So, it will stimulate hair follicles.
It will give you, but again,
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the amount of alcohol they put in minoxidil, it's likely not good for you. So, I'd rather stick to something which is more caffeine based um than minoxidil.
So, the B supplement, sorry, I missed it. I do take some B.
Vitamin B. Uh vitamin B is like B complex.
No,
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no, it depends on which you don't need necessarily all of them. So you shouldn't be taking a B complex whether it's B6 or B12 or folate uh you know which depends on what so in my blood test I do these like every quarter so in that I had a deficiency of B12 so yeah
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and uh I think you get it uh otherwise from uh animal sources right meat B12 is from I didn't check the sources sources I forget but we all I think I think B12 deficiency is a common one so I think it was a big mis that I didn't mention that
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but uh today when JC was coming and we were asking everybody what you eat for dinner like don't tell anyone but I want a steak nobody knows to me this is amazing I'm learning things about I didn't I didn't know apparently
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right no but steak is you don't eat anything but proteins no I had uh you had salad I had food no but like in meat I had chicken I thought you were vegetarian hence I was making this. I was tonight.
I had to tell like in the middle of the podcast.
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I'm not going to tell someone, "Hey, I can't eat." He's not eating that. That's Everybody was eating.
What supplements are you guys taking that is not on the list? Yeah.
What are you? Uh I I'm on a whole ton of them.
Yeah. So I just I just me kind of curious one or
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two which I didn't mention right like like Tongatali. Yeah, you heard.
No, no, I mean not tongi but uh say as soon as I get up in the morning I have uh thyroid tablets. What?
Thyroid. Thyroid.
Okay. Thyroid pills both both of us.
Okay. So
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that's more Yeah. Then athletic.
Huh? Sorry.
Athletic greens. Athletes.
That's the whole bunch. Then with after breakfast I I take a whole lot of them.
So like which are the one I mean I just I'm curious which are
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the ones that we didn't talk about choline alpha GPC elanine oh alpha you mean alpha GPC I mean this is for mental health I mean I I started a lot of this so choline and okay after the you know
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after this year stroke I I thought yeah I've I mean choline I've heard and uh uh B12 B2 there is then then yeah there are there are there are a bunch of them you know so I don't know how much it's helping me
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but uh but I'm taking see what are the ones which you we should take nothing um that yeah wasn't mentioned here thyroid is is something that is a medical Yeah.