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[Music] hey guys I'm excited to introduce our latest GTO wizard Pro the legendary Joey Ingram in this video Joey and I study button versus cut off three bet pot strategies in cash games we hope you [Music] enjoy all right what's up guys I'm Joey Ingram and uh welcome to a journey that I'm taking
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down the two card poin Omaha rabbit hole and a lot of people out there know me for for card for PLO but a few people know that I actually played millions of hands of hold them before I got into the beautiful great game of mon Omaha and recently once I started watching the live streams
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and seeing hold them start to make a rise and high stakes make a comeback and I started to see how these players played I uh started developing more of a passion for Learning holdom and um along the way GTO wizard trainer and their program has been one of my main tools I've used and I've
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loved their content and especially this guy I'm collaborating with today I'm sure you guys have loved his content too if you've seen it some of his stuff really blow me away as I've been learning holdom so we've done a few lessons before this and we're going to do an official Series where me and T boss 21 here are going to go down the rabbit hole and uh yeah man it's going to
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be a pleasure I appreciate you uh you collabing with me and you and uh I'm ready man I'm ready to I'm ready for whatever kind of Wizardry you got to teach me buddy absolutely and Joey I am so psyched to have you on I think this is going to be a really fun series you bring up great energy to this I really admire your enthusiasm and dedication as he said we're going to be stating
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Mr Joey Ingram's Journey Through the technical game of no limit hold them and we're going to be studying spots one at a time starting with the button now just prior to this call Joey was making a point that you have to be a God on the button and the reason is if you just look at theoretical
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win rates by position the button accounts for a huge huge portion of your win rate and that's true regardless of whether or not you play micros Stakes or high stakes the button matters and so nailing these spots nailing spots for you're playing the button is going to be crucial to your
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long-term win rate and we can see here that in a no- ra game the expected value or the win rate of the button is about 25 big blinds per 100 and trust me you'll need that to make up for the eeve loss of playing in the blinds now studying earlier positions and such mle position that's useful too
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but you have to pick the low hanging fruit first and that's why we're starting here now in today's video we're going to be covering button versus cut off three bet pots so we're talking about spots where cut off opens button three bets cut off calls they check to us in position and now we
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take a flop Joey I suppose maybe you could start me off by telling me a little bit about how you think about this spot now that you've been putting in so much study time yeah I mean you know I'm kind of converting over from this heads up mindset and as people know I mean not a lot of people play heads up but heads up you're playing 80 some per of your hands pre- flop on the button and you know
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so I'm trying to say how do I play as many hands as possible on the button how do I go crazy and I've had to really re myself in so now that I've been reing myself in and not three betting every single King ex suited not three betting every sort of suited you know 85 eight I've always wanted three bet all these hands to me they make sense as natural three bets and they still really you
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know if I'm going to open up my threshold at three betting I'm going to start including some of those hands especially against a lot of weaker players but I think right now I'm trying to get a really understanding of just you know sort of visually how the hand is going to work across three streets and how I can just set up a really rock solid pre flop default flop strategy so I'm finding
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that you really can't go wrong betting a third and then you have these couple different structures where there's basically two types of structures where one structure you're betting small on one structure you can bet bigger on you know like the 3 three fours and the the de duu F and stuff like that these low boards where you're just going to have a bigger overpair Advantage so you can kind
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of go crazy with those Ace so I'm trying to find that threshold with the with the ace Queens what are the combos I Barrel why am I barreling them you know sort of like build out this deeper level understanding of why I can automatically bet a third on you know any mono board and all these
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AI boards all these King High boards these Queen High boards you can just basically you're printing betting a third you know yeah I'm basically trying to take it to that next level the turn and the river and try to get it more better understanding of that I guess you could say yeah absolutely and so I think any part of building a strategy is starting from the big picture strategies first and
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then slowly building down to the more the smaller parts of the game tree if you will and so one of the best ways to start is by examining these aggregate reports what these reports do is they show the aggregate strategy across all possible flops there's 1,755 strategically distinct flops
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22,100 unique flops and so there's a lot of different flops how do we kind of simplify this and start building a strategy from all of this data right I think one of the very first steps to do is to just figure out what type of boards you want to have a big bet strategy a small bet
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strategy and what type of flops you mainly want to play defense on right so what I'm going to do is I'm going to group this by high card and let's just take a look at some trends that we can infer here so what this is showing us is that for example on Jack High boards you almost always want
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a bet in a button versus cut off three bet pot but on something like a seven High board you're checking back half the time here so we want to try and develop these thresholds so Jack for example almost always going to be a bet low cards we're mixing big bets but lots of checks and so I guess
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before we just start roote memorizing this stuff we should maybe ask why is it that we want to bet more often on these big cards and less often but with a larger sizing on these low card flops what do you think Joey pretty much range Advantage so you're going to have more Aces More Kings more
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Queens more Jacks more tens and they're going to be for betting Aces pure theoretically right Aces pure Kings pure Queens P pure even like their best Ace King suited they're going to be orbiting those pure as well so I feel like you can uh you know you know maybe as as simple as you can put in yeah
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exactly so it all comes down to the difference between the ranges and so what I've done here is I've opened up the ranges Tab and I've filtered for the call so this is really useful because it kind of gives you an idea of who's going to have the advantage on different boards right and in
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particular we'll note that these King High aside flops are going to be great for the aggressor no surprise there Queen high is about the bottom of the cut offs calling range offit calling range and the reason I always pay attention to the offsuit calling range is because even though these look
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smaller like Ace Queen off accounts for many more combinations than Ace Queen suited so one technique that I like to start with for just developing a sense of how I should categorize flops is to look at a range breakdown so what I do is I say I copy these ranges into some software
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and then I just use card removal to figure out who has the advantage or who has more of what type of card by rank so that's how I make these charts here so what this does is what is this yeah yeah so this is a a little private analysis technique I like to use so basically I just type in the number
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of combinations of cards and then I take a little side by side and a difference thing and so what this shows on the left hand side is that generally speaking cut off is going to have more of the 2x 3x 4X 5x all the way up to about 9x and button in position as the pre- Flop aggressor will of
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course have more jackx Queen X King X and acex and so by just starting with this card distribution difference we can already find a nice Line in the Sand and that is the 10 if the Flop is above a 10 you're typically going to be betting often for a small size because you have a big range Advantage
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if the Flop is less than a 10 you can no longer range bet and you need to start considering a more polarized strategy you can also take a look at a side by-side view again we have cut off and button and if we take a look at where this threshold is this 10x and just compare that with the aggregate
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reports over here we can see that the trend follows very clearly flops that are greater than a 10 high frequency bet pushing your range Advantage flops that are lower than a 10 low frequency bet about half the time and these darker squares indicate that we're using larger bet sizes so just
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by studying aggregate reports like this I think we can already start to develop some heris discs can I ask you okay so when we have a range Advantage why why do they like you to bet smaller versus bigger that's a great question Joey often the reason is uh the types of hands you're interested
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in betting so for example let's take uh a low bet board cuz most people would think if you have Aces if you have Kings like I want to get max value I'd want to bet bigger I'd want you know that's I think a lot of players think about poker like that if they go oh I'm going to check I'm going to bet smaller with Ace five but I'm going to bet bigger with Aces because I want to get paid when
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I have a big hand so and obviously you know this isn't necessarily the way G wizard thinks about it but I think it's understanding the answer to that question helps you to better understand what the idea of balance and the idea of exploit and and uh you know kind of build in like a baseline yeah great question so on a board like king93 it's very dry it's disconnected your opponent's gonna
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have a hard time defending the important thing to realize is that the amount of money you put in on the Flop is not the amount of money your Aces will get right if you bet big on the Flop sure maybe you can get more money immediately but less money all the way by Showdown whereas by betting small by keeping your range wide you incentivize them to put in more money which is going to be
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great for the top of your range uh furthermore a lot of the hands in your range are going to benefit from Equity denial when your advantage is so big that you can just bet everything right so for example if you imagine you have a hand like 108 or queen 10 lots of these hands have
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some type of equity but they're definitely going to benefit from folding out for example all of these pocket pairs in the opponent's range now compare this to some sort of low cardboard let's say something like uh 9852 tone 9852 it's going to be very difficult to range bet and the reason
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is our opponent they still have pock pocket 9es they still have pocket eights they've got pocket fives they've got 98 they've got a bunch of draws they've got Ace 9 King n so we no longer have the nut advantage and because we don't have that nut Advantage we cannot just range bet everything we
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don't have that overwhelming Equity Advantage so in this case what you'll want to do is develop a checkback range start pushing your Equity with a more polarized range I mean I got ask ask some questions about that you know what I me I mean that's a whole other rabbit hole right and know I guess when you when you thing about studying this because to me there's such different boards
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you know I'm studying an Ace King five board it's going to be such a different way to think about it than on a 985 board to me it kind of makes sense to study the a high boards first because we do have such a range Advantage so when I'm when I'm thinking about this lately I've been saying you
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know why don't I focus on those AI boards because those are going to basically be my wheelhouse whereas on those boards you know 985 theoretically when I see B big with Kings and I get check raised you know if I'm 100bb like you know I'm hanging on tight then I got to start making some reads
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I got to decide if this is the kind of player who's going to be bluffing me or not and you know maybe you could say most people aren't going to be bluffing you so you can maybe get away from some of those hands but even then if you end up putting in 100 BB with overpair on 985 like you could say it is what it is especially if there's a fruster out there too so it's kind of like you
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know I'm developing you know your focus on my study right our focus on that so it's I find that something interesting to think about I'm curious how you kind of would approach that or you would recommend approaching that well I definitely agree with studying AI flops first and not just because of the way they play simply because they're more common what I'm showing here is the
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aggregate report for all possible flops and on the left hand side we see these little percentages now these represent the proportion of high card flops so 21.7% of flops are ace high 18.3% are King High 15.2 or queen high when I show this to a lot of novic they get confused because isn't a queen just
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as like as an ace well yes but we're looking at it by high card right so Ace king queen is an AI flop right now given that these flops are more common you can get more value for your time by studying them compared to for example seven High flops which are far less common basic principle of
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my teaching method is to focus on things that are going to be have a bigger impact on your win rate immediately and one of those would be taking into account the frequency of the type of textures you like to create now speaking of textures Joey let me ask this is a crazy this is this is a really
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interesting screen because this is I've never seen this screen before yeah I mean it kind of It kind of ties in with the you know with kind of your predicted EV and it even shows you you know why like you it's just way to see the BET sizes right because you can see 75% you know there's a drop
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off there six and Below you are betting that big size pretty often and then once once it gets above a six you're really not betting that size often at all right you're kind of going more half pot so I find that kind of fascinating where on that seven to 10 it's more half pot as you get past the 10
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you start going really small right so you can kind of see the progression from the 20 to the 75 and then you know that that part to me really stands out the bigger the smaller the smaller the bigger yeah exactly and I think uh just looking at this section here as you were pointing out you can see
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a very very common Trend where these cardboards you're checking a lot but you're also betting bigger big sizes and then at these high cardboards you're checking rarely but you're betting smaller and this is a a typical Trend you'll see in Holdem GTO strategies is that there's a rule of thumb
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not like a hard law of Game Theory but generally speaking when you want to bet most of your range you want to bet small because you've got a lot of mergy hands in there and when you're forced to develop a significant checkback range you'll want it bet bigger in this case it also happens
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that on for example nine high and Below boards part of the reason a larger more geometric sized bet is preferred is because the value of fold Equity is higher so for example if we bet half pot on 985 with let's say you have ace9 here or Jack n or queen n or something uh there's a lot of
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value to folding out these overcards the nine even though those hands are technically behind a top pair for example folding out that Equity has a lot of value now if you compare this to for example an AI flop let's say you bet top pair here Ace Queen Ace 10 something like that for like a medium size
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uh well congratulations you're folding out a lot of hands that you already dominated like Ace Queen is not thrilled to be folding out king Jack or king queen or queen Jack so you have to think about not just range and not Advantage but the value of fold Equity as I call it the the value
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of denying Equity given what the top of your range wants now that said I do want to just show you one more technique that I use for studying aggregate reports uh because I think once you've got your game planed down it's going to be easier to focus on follow through I recommend keeping this relatively simple break take some sort of spot like this so here we're looking at again
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cut off versus button three bed pod break it down into something like four to eight different types of boards however many you feel that you should be studying and these types of boards should be somewhat canonical meaning like monotone paired uh dry disconnected high card stuff like that
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and then study and practice those types of flops separately now for example uh if we the way I like to just learn about these textures is by going to the aggregate reports and just applying filters until I find strategically similar spots so we have all the low flops High flops now one thing
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I've noticed is that in particular disconnected rainbow flops are almost always going to be a bet and so what I do is I just pick some filters here and then I take a look at the aggregate betting frequencies here and we can see that the vast majority of these flops are just going to be range
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bets usually for a small size if it's a lower board then even more for a medium size so that' be for me one type of category of flop rainbow dis disconnected another one that I would choose would perhaps be ace through jack High uh unpaired not monotone we've seen before with that chart that
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typically the through Jacky again are going to be the boards you bet the most and again we can see that these boards are typically range bets right surprisingly the boards where you might choose not to range B are Ace wheel wheel boards so these are boards that have some potential wheel straight
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draw and in particular like if you look at Ace 54 there's not a ton of incentive to generate fold equity on these types of flops because you as the button don't really have much second and third pair like you don't have a whole lot 5x or 4X so your incentive to kind of go for like a small
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mergy bet is reduced and you're not folding out any overcards because there are no overcards so there's not a lot of incentive to um deny Equity either for that reason sometimes the amount you bet isn't just about the strength of your range because for sure button has an advantage on as54
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sometimes it's about the incentives to deny Equity as well and the incentives to to bet with more middling strength hands if you compare that to something like uh Ace 104 Ace 104 we have a lot of 10x that would happily get some money in we have enough of an advantage that we don't need
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to be too worried about facing aggressive check raises and again we can see that the cut off where it goes from like betting half the time to betting a lot is again around the 10 as we noted earlier the critical threshold card if you will right the 10 the 10 is very the very it is the
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threshold here it's pretty interesting to see that yeah once you get to the nine you're just checking a lot more yeah and we'll we'll notice the the same pattern on a lot of other spots too so here's Queen 8X Queen 9x Queen and then boom Queen 10x it shoots up right because all of a sudden we start
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having a lot of 10x relative to cut off and I I'll mention that the the critical threshold card tends to change depending on spots you study in this spot usually it's going to be around there and then of course we have paired boards so this would be like another major canonical type of texture
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again you want to bet often on paired boards but the main thing to focus on with paired boards is not whether or not it's paired but where the pair is so if we go down here we can see that for example seven do du 633 8 D this all of these cards where the pair is a low card that you know
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a spot basically where we can't represent many trips but those are the types of par cards where you don't want to range bets anymore and it's often going to be better to start polarizing wow interesting I would I would think on like five new du you could you'd want to be just betting all the
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time in position because you have such a big range Advantage I mean I guess because I mean you're not going to have trips but at the same time I don't you know they have a Duce but they're going to fold a du sometimes too so they don't necessarily have the trips as well you know they're they're going to have more fives because fives is pure pre- flop but and you probably won't have fives
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you're probably not three bitting fives so I would just imagine that you would just bet bigger hair so that's pretty surprising to see that it does like to five de duu no one really has any trips uh but I will say that at some point the pocket pair categories start to count for more like in this case they still have a lot of overcards or over Pairs and that definitely counts towards something
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here but we'll also notice that the button often likes to size up and so a lot of people will look at something you know I'll even get rid of the the flush draw make that like five clubs or something people will look at this and say oh this is a very very dry texture but I think one of the problems
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with a small bet here is that it's just not super effective like look at the hands you're folding out Queen Jack Queen 10 Jack 10 like the types of hands you fold with a small bet here aren't really the types of hands you want to be folding so what what the solver likes to do instead is it
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likes to start targeting some of the pocket pairs like a 75% size here some of the ace high King High he wants to start targeting these hands for indifference so we can see like for example here 40% of the time we're going with this big size 75% is Big at the SS spr it's weird because in single
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raise pots typically you see paired board small bet but in three bet pots paired boards often means bigger bet because the idea is to challenge these pocket pairs if not on this straight then on following Straits and the 20 20% bet I mean they're folding hands that are so that like like
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when you bet 20% and they're folding some of these hands here 10 n these are worse than your Bluffs it's hard to Bluff someone off a worse hand so so then how do you think about checking back because according to you know it's basically saying and the as the button you want to be checking back more on these low boards so you know it's checking back Aces it's checking back you know it seems
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like it's basically checking back of is high and I think feel like people are kind of afraid to to check back these spots but to be honest the way I look at it is that the buttons Equity tends to appreciate here because we benefit from most high card runouts are going to benefit us whereas like the medium card runouts would benefit the cut off but the medium strength runouts for example
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if we go check check we can just take a look at turn reports here what I'm going to do is just show you the the expected value of run outs for the button the higher this line the greater the expected value and so of course we're going to be benefited when the turn card is 10 or higher
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and the cutoff is going to be benefited when the turn card is nine or lower but even if the turn card is nine or lower the River card again be a high card so generally when you're in a spot where you have a lot of overcards and not a lot of maid hands relative to the Flop the reason you want to check back range is because first of all there's not a lot of incentive to fold out worse
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overcards secondly even if if you do fold out wor over cards sometimes it can be better to keep your opponent's range wide let their Equity depreciate like let their you know an ace run off and hurt their Queen high or whatever and have your hand appreciate and value just by letting some more
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cards run off so sometimes just being patient is is a it's a good weapon in poker yeah Mak that that makes sense yeah yeah especially because you know the turn the turn in the river I feel like that's where people start to go crazy their brain starts to break if you check back the Flop on five du duu and and uh you know they're not really going to know what to make of it necessarily so
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it's nice to have some some of those Aces and it also makes your hand seems like easier to play on the turn and on the river often times too because if they bet you can call and if they bet you can fold or you can call so it's kind of like it seems like an easy position to play as the button when checked and facing a turn decision too it is yeah it's way easier to play for example Ace King is a
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check here in my opinion because I don't gain anything from folding out Queen 10 Jack n like what do I care if these hands fold when I have Ace King that's not great I would rather keep those hands in range on the turn it becomes much easier to play a hand like Ace King and one of the techniques I like to use to do this is by taking a look again at the turn reports and then using
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the strategy here so here it's gone check check turn is any card check action on us in the button and here I'm just going to filter for example for Ace King now what this does is it shows me how I should play my Ace King across all turn cards on this flop first thing I'll notice is okay if turn
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goes check check and I hit a pair bet it right uh and for a big size too like we're we're playing for Stacks like so here's a question to you Joey why do you think it is that we want a bet pretty big on a king in fact it's over betting here like 175 uh but on an ace it's betting bit smaller like
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75 when we have Ace King it's a good question I mean I guess for the the king so it likes us to bet a lot bigger on the king well we've already kind of saw from that previous report that it just loves a king right it barely checks back the king so I think that we're going to have a
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lot more Kings than they're going to have and um they're probably going to forbit most of their Ace Kings they might have king queen suited maybe some King Jack suited and maybe we're just going to have a lot more Kings in our range and we're also going to potentially have Aces too and we're going to have more pocket kings so I don't know something to all things to consider I guess but
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what what what do you think it is I think what you said is is pretty spoton uh we're definitely going to have an advantage on ASX and kingx turn cards uh and I think one of the the main things is that on a kingx turn card a lot of our for example king queen king Jack King 10 a lot of these hands
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are going to want to try and fold out some of cut off's ASX hands right so imagine you check back some sort of top pair here and an ace comes on the river that kind of sucks for a hand like King eight right whereas there's lots of value to here I I like a pot siiz bat generally but it wants a
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nice big bat here but there's a lot of value to folding out these overcards right I couldn't care much about folding out most of these but folding out the a high is quite useful and I can still get a decent amount of value from these worst pocket pairs generally in three bet pots especially on
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when it comes to turn and River what I'm thinking about is a few main factors first of all is how does my hand play against the pocket pair because this is going to comprise usually on most runouts the majority of their call down range so I want to think about how my hand is doing against these
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types of pairs and secondly I want to think about what their overcards to top pair are doing and here if I bet big I know I can fold out a lot of equity let's try uh something else here Joy what do you do when let's say flop goes check check and out of position Pro bets how do you like to handle
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these spots yeah how do I like to handle these spots um usually you know usually some mixing some calling some folding I mean probably just uh depending on what the turn is you know if I'm have my Ace highs I check back I have my Ace Queens I have my Ace Jack like some of my my pairs that I
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mixed and checked back I'm just going to call the turn and call some raise some um I'll probably fold like my you know for some reason if I didn't see that I mean I don't know why but if I didn't see at my like 78 suited here if I didn't see at like my queenex suited or my jackx suited or 10x
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suited and depending on the card I might just start folding some too so but versus like that size bed I don't think I'd fold many a SI on you know if I got two overcards on a 10 I'm probably G to call at least one street and then maybe try to get a showdown maybe sometimes turn into a
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bluff so I'm probably staying versatile at this point in time but if it's against someone I feel like is you know crushing me I might just start folding here too and make my life a little bit easier I think you've got the right right idea here generally against this small like 33% prob B you don't really want to be folding a whole lot of ace high most of the time especially on
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a board like this right can't fold ace high here got to call that down uh so one thing that I like to do to try and develop my strategies here is to test out some random text and just get a sense of my thresholds so first thing I'm going to do is I'm going to press s a couple times SS and what
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this does is it just groups these actions together and what I want to do here is just kind of develop threshold so what am I raising for Value if I hover over this little icon here I can see how the raising range is constructed across all of these different sizes that we've given it and we can
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see that on a board like five de de four typically going to be raising over pairs Straits and boats for Value not so much top pair on this board and then lots of ace high King High these types of hands some gut shots for example as Bluffs now what I'll do is because this is just one spot I'll
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randomize it bam Ace 1065 imagine we went check check here I don't think we would this is kind of a range bet spot but just to develop a sense of what's folding in this case we can even see pocket kings is folding a little bit these pocket pairs start to fold we have a lot of hands here
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and what's raising for Value I guess two pair sets maybe a little bit of Ace Queen but again we don't get here too often then I just keep randomizing like this and I try and develop a sense of what can I raise for Value what's the strongest hand I fold in this case the strongest hand I fold is low
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pair on Ace Queen five jack what I raise for Value typically we're going to be looking at I think in game I I would go with Ace King like I I don't think I would have the konas to to raise A6 here you know but okay so I just keep going through it like this okay flush completing turn what are we
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raising for Value sets what are we starting to fold here a high these flush completing turns can start folding Etc and this is just kind of a I'll randomize it a few more times let's try and get like a low card board I love how you randomize the board textures too you're a you're a master you're a master randomizer Rand I don't know I don't know you come up with the strategy
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start randomizing I don't know how you go with this idea but you could in theory just prepare a subset of turn cards to look at but there's a lot of turn card this is interesting yeah I mean this is pretty interesting way to think about it yeah to go through again once you I think once you do this for like 10 minutes you're gonna start to see the patterns emerge um so again we see typically
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strong top pair plus is Raising for Value typically ace high sometimes low pair if it's a very connected run out it's going to start folding but everything in between your maid hands your flush draws your open Enders these hands cannot be folding against this size and I think just you spend 10 minutes going through that all of a sudden you start to feel a lot more comfortable
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in these check check lines where you face a proth 100% that's definitely something the spot one of the spots I need to work a little bit more on because I I feel like I got my uh SE betting strategy no down but the checking back one is also very powerful too so you need to be prepared for both and you need to be practice for both in my opinion so that's that's for me my strategy it's
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going me my plan people underestimate the the power of just pressing the check button on the Flop there's a back in the day very few people were developing their delayed bets and their check check lines and so the first people who kind of took advantage of that had a big Edge in the
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game let's move on to different topic here now Joey can you tell me a little bit about how you like to structure your bet sizing across multiple streets sure I mean normally if I'm going to start off betting big on the Flop and like a big board texture then often times I'm going to be betting
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pretty big on the turn this is kind of assuming 100bb if I'm betting small on the turn then on certain board textures then most times once again I'm probably going to going to go like small plop 66 turn and then most times just shove River you know if I have a hand for Value in my in my bet
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strategy is going to be 33 then I'm probably just going to go bigger and that's going to be my like default value get in for the most part and I feel like you can't really go wrong with that 100 BB in terms of for the other big bets I would say my issue comes in is when I'm on the river and I
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have to decide what I follow through with because I let's say I bet big on that flop I bet big on that turn on the river I'm I'm going to need some Bluffs so deciding what the Bluffs are has been is kind of where I would say I'm I'm challenged at at that line right now just you know identifying and
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having like a horis to think through that process that one's a tricky subject so let's start there and I'll talk a little bit more about the the game tree later let's pick some sort of flop here we'll go bet call and turn let's put it like a 10 here I this is like the easiest just big big beted spot
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ever you know like exactly these these Bo you know these boards are just they they play themselves almost to me you know it's just like if you're going to better check here you're betting big or you're checking yeah exactly just play a nice geometric size here I wish they had 66% that would be perfect here we can of course uh Su that in but very easy you've got low low and then double
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Broadway where again this is pretty common because you're going to be C betting you're going to be barreling with Ace Queen Ace Jack ace7 pretty much all Ace like a lot of ace high here you know the better aces are going to mix but the better the worse aces are going to be pure here for betting you can see like A6 A7 so that board's interesting because then once you get called twice your River
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Bluff is you know I feel like you do have to mix in some of those hands as Bluff sometimes too it's just like hitting the right hitting the right frequencies and um because on the flush draw board you know they're going to have some flush draws they're going to have some suited you know seven eight suited they're going to have some King Queens King Jacks some slow played sets some you
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know Ace Deuces maybe that you know a is probably actually going to fold fold the turn but so it's interesting to think about you know how does our range interact with their range and then coming to some understanding of that strategy yeah this is where the the power of the ranges tab becomes really apparent using this comparison here where you're looking at the ranges side by side and
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inferring okay given these range a symmetries what does my range want to do and then just clicking the strategy button and observing the strategy making those connections is going to be really powerful so yeah ranges tab severely underutilized for sure so you had mentioned a little bit about
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bluffing and like choosing the right Bluffs this is a spot where there are many playable strategies um not this board in particular but in position River Bats typically it doesn't matter so much what you're bluffing with as long as it's like bottom of range stuff it's more important how
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often you're bluffing overall and so the first thought that crosses my mind when I would get to a river spot after a double barrel isn't uh what type of Bluffs should I use it's how many Bluffs do I get here with in the first place in this case it's gone King 10 43d so lots of bricks and of
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course we have a whole lot of random a high trash right and that's of course going to mean that it's going to want to turn some of that a high trash into a bluff but let's what I like to do sometimes is just iterate this River card so here's the three and again I'm just going to highlight trash
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hands same concept for yeah so here's actually a problem to I had when I first started this spot was that I didn't realize how bad the A7 A6 that those Aces were and I didn't realize how bad ace
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high hand in general was on for no Showdown right like in my mind those hands sometimes will have Showdown but it doesn't matter that they have Showdown those are the hands that become the pure Bluffs that was something that took me a little bit of time to get comfortable with like
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when I see King 43 I know if I have A7 or A6 like we got to go all in you know what I mean so I and I and and that that took a while and and like here's the thing it has let's say seven eight maybe 10% Equity maybe more if your opponent's a station and so these hands do have some some
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Showdown value and if you were to instead give the silver complete garbage here stuff that cannot win he would bet those instead right it's it's but it's doesn't have enough low Equity trash so if we just go to the summary tab sort by equity and I guess click again you can see that we really
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don't have like these hands are barely at range like we basically never have these low card hands and so a lot of the time it has to turn some of these ace high hands into Bluffs simply because you're running out of Bluffs right I just filter for the lowest like less than 25% garbage in our
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range we really don't have much right so I'm showing the strategy and the equity here A6 is one of the worst hands you can even get here with not to say it's like can never win but that's why I say you got to think about what Bluffs do you actually arrive here with and if the answer is
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not many you got to start turning stronger hands into Bluffs and so sometimes what I'll do is is I'll just um shift left or shift right is is the hot key for this is I'll just cycle through all of the river ranks and start to see what happens with different parts of my range so on most of these
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low cards we're still going to turn lots of a high to lefts but if I go up to let's say say we go to a 10 what happens to our strategy now like we'll notice that something happens right around the this range a jack I think which also completes some straight draws is that a lot of our top pair
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stops going all in here what do you think Joy would you ship it with Ace King here no I used to ship it with Ace King until I kept getting a bad Mark of shipping with Ace King and then I realized that I would have to go think about it differently because so if I feel like if I have a
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dynamic develop with you and you know you know I'm bluffing and I feel like you're just going to be overcalling then I'm going to be I'm going to be shipping in here I'm pray you don't have I'm going to pray you don't have King Jack I'm going to hope that you have king queen because also like at some point in time if you see an opponent God forbid they start calling you down with ace4 God forbid
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they start calling you down with like 910 suited here or something like that then you know to me those are the people that I want to identify and I want to be betting my asking for value and if I undercut myself 100 big blindes deep that kind of is what it is so as a standard I wouldn't I
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would say as a default I would just check back but I mean once I know that you're calling me more in this situation I'm 100% betting for Value something to pay attention to in three red pots is in particular how Ace Queen is affected because Ace Queen is going to be the most prominent hand
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in the pre-f Flop colar range generally speaking Ace queen or king queen that makes sense and and this is true in most three bet pots Ace Queen is is like the one spot you want to pay attention to so when the board comes King 10 Jack and Ace Queen all of a sudden becomes the nut straight you could have start being a little more careful here but if I change this Ace Queen to let's say change this
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jack to a queen feeling we're going to be a little more aggressive right so now we can start shipping it with Ace King simply because Ace Queen is no longer than nut straight we're not worried about our opponents having those hands as much and now you can start shipping it right so always think about especially in a triple barrel line where you know their range is going to be quite tight when
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they call down think about that that distribution I mean look at those blubs look at that look at that's a real interesting card so check this out every ace high every B high and low pair just goes off here even your reverse blockers your sixes 65 you know those are going crazy here that's pretty
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that's pretty fascinating to me yeah I think part of it is like we just take a look at top pair plus there are so many hands here that want to just get the money and joy and when you want to Value bet more you also have to Bluff more and so for that reason it starts turning even hands that have some reasonable Showdown value low pairis a high all of these hands into Bluffs and it has
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to Bluff more because we're Valu betting more the only hands that have a strong incentive to check back would maybe be our second pair here queenex yeah I wonder what their calling range is here that good question let's see looks like they're calling with two pair plus always which isn't
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like sure they have king queen and some top pair just a little like the silver is going to merge in some of these second and third pair hands just to avoid having too many blocker weaknesses but yeah for the most part we're looking at so they don't have any they don't have anything to call with
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here yeah it's it's pretty hard to call I think in reality most people are just going to be calling down with like top pair plus probably folding most of these second and third pair yeah I would say like they're going to be over ambitiously calling with Ace Queen and then you know once
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what depends on like this is why you got to show them down some bad hands sometimes is okay so now if I if they start turning all some of these hands into pure calls where they're always calling with all their King highs and you know you can kind of run it differently and then if you look that look at that strategy then you might be able to you know you might realize your play here as
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in position might be a little bit different so it's kind of interesting to to think about if that would affect your strategy at all in terms of you know those Ace highs being pure Bluffs well sometimes if they're over calling you then some of those Bluffs actually don't become GTO anymore they become bad Bluffs indeed a lot of these Bluffs here will stop making sense if
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they're not getting enough fold Equity especially on the river right like it still makes sense to Bluff a lot of these hands on earlier streets because you're denying but by the river if you're fairly confident that your opponent is going to station you down well don't Bluff a station got said if they never see you show up with any of those hands maybe they stop calling down light
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yeah exactly I mean it go it goes but you know you can make a justification for either either thing that that's what's great about what's great about 100 big blinds tombos is like you know you can just like bet just bet on the river just bet you know what I especially three bet pots he can just play yeah three bet pots I mean you don't really got lot lot of things to worry about at
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that point in time just start betting and uh say your prayers so so so let's let's try one experiment here we're going to change that 10 to a 10 of Hearts which completes the flush and I think something we'll notice here is that I think a lot of players are a little too aggressive on flush completing runouts so if I go over to the turn reports here I don't want any so I'm not filtering
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for anything I just want to show this spot I'd say this spot's pretty pretty a little bit more tricky for me too because um just visualize it and flush firsts flush ranges and you know how to value top pairs here how to value your Ace King no hard how to value your king queen no heart and then how to decide the combos of that you want to Bluff with in terms of their side cards and
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and reverse blockers and stuff like that so this this is way different spot even though would seem pretty similar it's actually a lot different it is yeah it's a tricky spot I think and part of the reason for this on flush completing boards is that you don't necessarily want to have a big bets anymore or not on a lot of flush completing runouts and the reason is that you start to bet
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too big on for example the T of Hearts here then you're not getting enough value with hands like top pairs over Pairs and you're narrowing their range too quickly towards flushes and such so what ends up happening go to the strategy here is that playing a little more passively but we're also
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typically going to start lowering our bet size a bit so you'll see a lot of 50% a lot of 33% these smaller sizes and we'll even see that and this is like a nice tactic to to know about on a lot of these runouts uh is that maybe I can make it even more obvious with something like uh Native hearts
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a lot of the under pair cards will go for a second small bet so there's like a sneaky play that a lot of people like to use let's say you have Queens here flop comes King 43 you're thinking oh crap I hate life I've got Queens the BET small on the Flop they stick around you're not happy but you
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can actually just put in another small bet on the turn on these flesh completing runouts especially when you have flush card blocker I should add that this is a good question to you Joey and the rest of the audience why do we think it is that Queen of Hearts Queen of Diamonds wants to
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bet here but for example let's say queen without a heart does not one this spots actually another this shows up a lot in singer race pot in position as well where you can start like small bat small bat the Flop and turn with these like second pair hands so it's kind of interesting it shows up here
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too I would imagine in this spot with the Queen of Hearts you can cooler some hands and you have some implied odds in terms of getting to the river with the heart so I I would imagine that you're kind of like it's like a merge in some ways where you're have the implied odds you also
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can get called by worse worse pairs that have a hard to and then even if it's a king then you could potentially yeah draw that hand absolutely spot on you know and so the important thing to realize is that if we're going for a double small bet strategy or like a small medium bet strategy
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they still have to call down with a bunch of pocket pairs you know like look at all the low pairs that they have to call you down with you're still extracting like some super thin value when you bet van like Queens here and so that's going to be a big part of it obviously you don't want to bet like huge on a flush completing run up but the nice part about this is also it's kind of
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an equity realization play to bet with thin value here because if you bet twice you get some value from these static Bluff catchers and then you can just kind of check back the river and enjoy life right I mean that that's why that's why I like that that small bit on the turn like kind of
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once you bet the turn here your River decision is real easy right just check back or bet for value or Bluff I mean it's like it's it kind of like takes away some I guess like uh problem spots I see you know what I'm saying I see some hands like I don't I don't want to have to check back a hand here and then the river you know the guy goes 150% or something like that I'm like oh my God you
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know I just I'm I'm kind of avoiding a spot by the river against all players right I wouldn't say it's is doable against everybody but you know against those people that are really coming after you really putting pressure on you and they're maybe maybe they're going kamakazi with some of their Bluffs on the river River and you just don't want to have to force yourself to make that decision kind of just betting a turn taking the initiative away and kind of even having on these
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these flush completing boards uh you know maybe just going small small as your only strategy is like an easy way to play it you know you don't really got to think much about it you know check like okay once we once we bet a third on this flop and if we say okay like let's not complicate
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things let's just bet a third or about half on the on the flush completing turn this board is very common and that spot is very common so then you kind of need to just plan your River strategy to have a good understanding of what you want to do and then you kind of win that spot you win that hand this is a nice way to develop a game plan right we started thinking about what sizes we'd
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like to use on different types of runouts then we started assigning some sort of value thresholds to those sizes and develop that game plan uh and I think that's really an effective way to study because what a lot of people will do instead Joy is instead of developing a game plan like you just did what they'll do is they'll look at only one particular hand that they played oh I played fives
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here oh I folded fives here okay call when it has the the flush draw blocker otherwise not it's not an effective way to study you want to get like a nice Global game plan going yeah EXA exactly and you want to understand the the thresholds right I mean you T I think you I think you're the one taught me this really was once you start to understand understand the thresholds then you
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can start to understand why you're deviating you know it's you're building your threshold strategy to exploit and understanding okay well what does an exploit mean on this runout against this player I might be doing this because of of that and I against this player I might be doing this because
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of that so that's ideally where I'm personally trying to get to that understanding where you know I just know what to do against every player type and um I'm just making my decisions easy I'm trying to make all my decisions easy no blunders and then that's what's great about these trainers is you can drill all these spots to test your knowledge and wherever you're making your blenders
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now you know okay I got to like ask my coach I got to I got to ask somebody like what what am I doing wrong here so that's something I've been doing in my training is to identify where am I blundering how am I blundering and then okay what's going on here so that's been real helpful for me because now think about it we can just play this spot a hundred times and test to see if we know what
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we're talking about or not so I guess the the final thing that I wanted to chat about with you Joey how one can go about kind of Designing drills and practicing their skills against the silver and honing their intuition of course we have our GT wiard trainer here but I want to
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show you kind of a special method because lots of people want to train with all of these different bat sizes so what we can do instead is create a custom solution using GTO wizard Ai and what this allows us to do is we can pick our own bat sizes we can design for example and I'm just gonna click
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this is the one I use too I I I would use this one too as a start and then also you can edit you can edit these ranges pre- flops so if you think if you say okay well I think my opponent's ranges are different then you can edit these ones right so if you say okay well they sometimes show but theying suited you know Lord willing then you can start to add those in this is what I really
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love about I don't I don't personally know how to use this that well but I am definitely excited to learn more how to use this this part right and so this is all just about uh learning how to build a s so I think a lot of people will just pure call Ace Queen off here some some people are really good at forting it but some people just love to pure and then a lot of these like millon pocket
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pairs in the GTO Sim eights nine sevens these will actually Four bets at a low frequency but I think in practice most people just pure call these so you can you know plug in your own forbit strategy you can plug in your opponent's pered range or just use the GTO ranges Etc and there's your
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ranges right you can set the rake all of that and then here's the hard part now most people when they first use like a proper do-it-yourself solver they have no idea how to construct a game trait they don't know what sizes to give it on flop turn and River they don't necessarily know
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it's appropriate but what I like about GTO wizard is that it's got these automatic bet sizing trees and so just to give you guys a tour of what this might look like if I click automatic it's going to automatically reduce it down to one bet size per flop per turn per runout and that's going to
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change depending on the runout right so instead of having to learn these complicated mix strategies I can just say click automatic let it tell me what size the silver prefers in different spots obviously we're going to get a lot of 40% here here 773 likes a big size Etc and then I even
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take it a step further and what I can do is plug in my own sizes and let's say I like to choose on the Flop let's say I usually go here like 25 75 and then you you know you're really not over betting so you know sometimes if I'm experimenting I'll put a check or overb here too just to build
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my overb strategy as well but I I probably would go like 25 75 and then check I think that's pretty good sometimes what I like to do if I'm making like a more General tree is I'll use it's called geometric sizing and so this little e here is why do you like to do that why do you
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like to do that instead because now it's going to automatically adjust to the stack tot ratio so if I want to come and reuse this beding tree 200 big blinds deep it's going to adjust that 3E sizing so that I have a bigger bet when we're deeper and a smaller bet when we're shallower makes sense right so as you get deeper then you're going to start wanting to bet bigger here right and so to any
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people watching this video later who don't know 3E just means betting an equal fraction of the pots in all three streets call that pot geometry uh and It's featured within most of our Sims very useful concept to understand within any three bet pot is pot geometry and why is that yeah great question
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essentially pot geometry let's take a toy game take some sort of polarized toy game where you have the nuts or Bluff and you want to figure out how can I get the most money out of my strategy like what bet sizings should I choose to make the most money in a perfectly polarized toy game it's always going to be betting geometrically and the reason for that is that if you bet geometrically
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your opponent is obligated to put the most money in the pot like for example you can imagine that we just ship all in on the Flop here our opponent is allowed to fold quite a bit and we can imagine maybe we go 10% pot 10% pot all in on the river again we want to get the chips in but we want
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to do it in a way that causes them to call down as wide as possible and it turns out that if you just take a look at the minimum defense frequency over all streets Bing geometrically will cause the to defend or obligates them to defend as wide as possible that said you don't always want to
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bet geometric sometimes there's competing incentives to bet small or B a little bit larger than geometric for more fold Equity but what I like to do is just start with a simple geometric calculator there's a formula uh we have a whole blog about pot geometry and the theory behind it but what I like to do is just plug in I thought you have all these like random
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R sheets of IDE like youve showed me youve show me every time there's like a then there's like a more impressive one down next one you show it's like oh my God and there's like four tabs and it's it just gives you I don't know it's a i I'd love me a good spreadsheet Joey there I can tell like it inspires
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me to make more spreadsheets I've been making more but not when I see all yours I'm like man what I like to do in any three bet pots is to do a little bit of spr analysis so here for example the starting pod is 92.5 or sorry 16.5 the stack is 92.5 and so we can calculate the stack tot ratio
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16.5 2.5 and this will vary a bit depending on sizing but uh essentially if we bet 65% pot on all three streets we're going to get it in by the river 2/3 is going to be the recommended big size 100 big lines deep now if we were deeper let's say for example we are 200 Big L Steed You're
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Gonna Want a bigger standard big you still want a small size but your bigger size ought to be bigger because now we're say 191 and 18 now your big size is close to parts right and so this is how I like to think about how to plan my bet sizes is I generally want one small size and one geometric
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size that's going to be especially powerful on later streets like on the turn where you have to start planning how do I get Stacks in uh and so when I'm building my game tree what I'll often do is I'll use those geometric sizes in order to adjust to different spots so maybe I'll just
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load one up here these are some parameters that I've I've built and saved and so what I'm going to do is I'm going to have in position have a 25% small bet and a 3E geometric size big bet in that other the turn instead of having 50 80 Etc I'll have uh I'll just simplify to something like I
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don't know 40% and 2E seems reasonable and then on the river I don't want a bet size less than half the pot in position one e is just all in so I can create this solution and I can plug in whatever flop I want take a look at the strategy and it's going to automatically tell me what size
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are preferable here so King Jack 7 especially since we've reduced it down to one size we can range bets a lot more let's go take a look at like a low paired board something like this 886 886 is going to be pretty bad for us actually I guess not I thought it would be worse for us to be honest but betting big here you can see it's it's one size but the size is dynamic right and
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it's true for like that for the entire tree so at every decision Point I've set it to simplify down to one bet size and that bet size is automatically generated the nice thing about this is that I can take this tree and I can go practice against it this has the added effect of teaching me what
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bet sizes I should be using in different spots allows me to customize my betting plan and once like it'll automatically tell me what sizes to use but then I can start actually practicing a strategy for those sizes and so the the old adage occurs clear that it's not so important what size
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you use it's more important how you implement that size so Joey here's our trainer now I know you like multi-tabling so in the controls panel you can choose between one and four simultaneous tables if you want to multiable a bunch of spots and get feedback about your play you can do it
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here uh thought so far is that um I mean this makes it a lot simpler right I mean a lot of a lot of complaints people have is they they don't want to memorize multiple sizes so you know to me this makes things easier it's either going to about 25% or you're going to bet like 70% so you basically
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just have two sizes and then check I mean it becomes a lot easier to to do right I mean you know even here we already know you know top like I already know all all these spots just from kind of like right you know bet bet bet all of them you know what I mean so it's kind of the those are all pry interesting Joey says bet them all bet them all he says bet bet they're all it's all it's all
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GTO and this is where the trouble this is where the trouble happens oh oh oh and here we're facing check Rays bottom left with Aces but we have the Spade obviously you can't fold this yet k comes along so here here it's interesting because they you know you wonder what they check rais you with
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sometimes they check rais you here with like Ace Queen Ace Jack like tens and nines and they're very balanced when they check the turn the wizard is so sometimes they're going to be checking here with even Ace King and kings and I guess they don't have Kings but they have Ace King offsuit here sometimes too yeah yeah let's actually take a look at that so what are they representing and
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again I the way I open this is I click This Little Light pul it's an info button and now what I can do is I can just either jump to the solver or just open this up in a new window and so now what I can do is let me take a little peek at what they were check raising me with so King 10 n King hand class
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distributions well they've got a lot of boats a lot of straits lot of trips so this is what they're they're representing when they hit me with this and then if I think I go over to the draws yeah yeah lots of flush draws lots of combo draws tons of gut shots and then of course if I
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want to go study this spot in some more detail I can hit this little hat bam open it up here we can see like this is a hard this is a real hard spot combo right here this this a this is a tough spot from either either either way because once you check race here with the with all those hands
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and misss you're like oh my God what do I do now like I know any no matter which spot I'm in here on this turn I'm I'm like uh like Aces I'm like check and prey I mean but then sometimes you might want to bet so you know it's it's this is this is a dicey I think at this spot they they're raising
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so often and that's partially because we've we put the BET sizing down like when you bet quarter pot they are obligated to check raise you a lot I I don't think people are hitting this I don't think I don't I don't think like a recreational is hitting this at all I don't think most people are hitting this at all they're no no for sure for sure people are not check raising this much no way
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right um and so like but again we're basically range betting anyway so typically the way You' exploit someone who's not check racing enough is you would just bet more bet wider but here we've already kind of capped out and this is one of the maybe drawbacks of a really small size is that you
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don't have even more room to exploit you could maybe start sizing up I guess but yeah anyway on the turn like we already know that when they check raise us their their range is too tight but on the turn it's still getting tricky here I think what's really gross and like I actually
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don't mind fing another bed here but when they check to me I I'm lost here Joy like check rate and then check a three pot is is like a hard line to to figure out to be honest yeah I mean here here I'm probably like I I wouldn't just mind just checking everything back and then you know if
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the Spade misses I'm just going to Bluff catch the river with most of my hands if they go all in then I'm going flip a coin and make my decision if I think they're bluffing me too much and if I don't think they're the kind of person that's going to be bluffing me too much here I'm just going to fold if I think that they might be getting a lot out of line here and over bluffing with some
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hands and I'm going to click call and prey yep you know I I don't think I don't think you can go really wrong with that approach here and you can maybe start to get more gusa build the turn Strat like we're looking at here it says with trips and you know maybe mixing some Queens I don't mind like mixing mixing some of those hands and then pray you don't get check raced again and then get
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just check back on the river unless you have you know trips are better even even trips are better I mean you know king queen suited maybe but you know if they're the type of person that's going to have a potential nine or 10 here because we are going to be turning hands into Bluffs we're going to be turning Ace Queen into a bluff we're going to be turning Ace Jack into a bluff we're going to be turning our flush draws into Bluffs here so we really do need to start to find some value in
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my opinion otherwise if you know what I mean we just we're not not balanced enough and you could maybe you don't need to be balanced enough here maybe just you know play it safe and check back and kind of wait on the river but I think against an aggressive player here I want to start putting pressure on them I don't want them to get to Showdown with a a nine you know their n98 and8
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n 10 n you know stuff like that so I think one of the tricky Parts about this spot is actually finding the Bluffs because when they check raise you you're already folding out a lot of your air and so you have to start turning some of these 10x and 9x hens uh with a draw into a glove yeah and I
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don't I don't pick that up easy you know because I'm like I'm just saying oh let me let me check back let me get a free River card but I I wouldn't even consider someone normally thinking about bluffing with some of these combos but you really got to get nasty here with your Combos and like you kind of have to this is the this is what's you got to take it to the streets to the river all in
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yeah like you have to like blast off with some of these hands that you wouldn't think on this flop you got to go all in with but and you know that that's when it get scary and but I feel like that's where the best players are going to thrive is they're going to be able to put you in that position here yeah absolutely you got to be able to do it you got to just be ready to blast off
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especially when you're this deep I think studying three bet pots check raises and three bet pots is something most people don't do but it's a springly common strategy I mean we're still pretty deep in like a cut off versus button through bed P you're deep enough that check race strategies are still
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very very much a thing this is what this is what you what you just told me was that this is where the edges yeah yeah studying these these weird spots especially like spots that are more common than people know and spots where the pot is typically bigger those two factors and again spots
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where the population does not study that's where you're GNA have a lot of edge assuming that you don't have gaping holes in your game elsewhere this is like a nice uh side path to to go down to get become an experts in these I think one thing thing to pay attention to here is maybe we can find a good word for this but spots where the aggressor shifts so where it goes from one
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player to another in this case the Flop the outer position play cut off becomes the the aggressor and then on the turn in position retakes betting lead here and so in swots like this where you've kind of both had your ranges narrowed like we've both faced a bet at this point both of you have
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folded out a lot of your air and the bottom of your range is now closer to very strong hands and when your Bluffs are stronger when The Showdown value is stronger you need to adjust your value thresholds and you need to start turning some M hands into Bluffs because you folded most of the natural Bluffs on earlier Straits this one this one's gonna be making people's head hurt
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combos yeah I guess maybe just to simplify they they these this is where when I start when I'm when I'm coaching with you usually during the session you start really blowing my mind start crack cracking open ideas and all of a sudden the like my body like starts lighting up and and this
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is one of those spots where you where you're I'm like I might I might have got a little let me let me see if I can rephrase that thing is you you you got like the deepest levels of this explanation and um I know you're even you're simplifying it for me so I you know we appreciate that I appreciate that sometimes I can get a little bit rambly Joey so no no that's what I I that's what
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that's what I love I'm like you're you're getting me excited you know you're like yeah you're right like out of I position did take it I mean it's pretty interesting spot I mean I don't know I like this is real this is a real interesting spot to me just to yeah this is a fun spot I guess just in summary when you faced the BET and folded your trash now you have to start turning stronger
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hands into Bluffs because you already folded the trash so now we have to start turning nine High 10 or you know second pair third pair Etc strong ace high into Bluffs so keep in mind the the previous action when you're thinking about Bluff selection a lot of players will back their strong hands and draws here but they might not be thinking about turning pair of tens pair of nins into a bluff
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as they should you're saying basically you always got to be thinking about what the hands are going to be turning into Bluff and on a check raise node when theoretically you're going to be continuing with a stronger range you have to start to get creative and pick non-intuitive Bluff stat yes under normal circumstances you would not say hey I need to go all in with Queen n on King 109 but
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in a check race spot you have to visually think ahead with that part of your range to understand that those hands are your Bluffs versus The Flop you wouldn't see that all yeah it's my bluff right three streets I'm in so you just got to be very selective on understanding how the node shifts
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your shifts your bluff Bluff threshold right and like the value thresholds are easy enough to understand on this front up trips plus betting for Value makes sense but finding the right Bluffs like a lot of players will neglect that part of their game is like okay my range is tighter I got to find new types of Bluffs that aren't intuitive to me uh and then they end up massively under
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bluffing stuff to pay attention to stuff like that means you can fold yeah paying attention to some earlier streets and thinking how the population might be play play that spot Etc so did you have any other questions for me while we're at it Joey questions for you I mean listen I got I got a
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million questions but I I guess my main takeaways today's are you know just better identifying how the 10 is that threshold card getting better at identifying you know checking back more on those low cards and kind of building that check strategy I would say turn you know I think we covered some
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pretty like interesting points I'd say to to the river being able to once again kind of just understand those Bluff spots I think that's going to be the thing that I got to really focus on and I think a lot of people got to focus on too so I'd say for me that's the one street I'm going to put a lot more thought into and just having a a better personal understanding of why to be bluffing the
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river with what hands outside of just like people are over folding here so I've got a natural Bluff because I have a big range Advantage you know like we saw that King tenan where I saw the A6 a7s know some of the other boards I would say the lower boards where you size up flop and size up turn
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like we saw that you saw dece 55 right 75 flop the turn once again that's a big bet on the river you know those textures to me are the ones where I'm saying okay once I bet my Ace King once I bet my Ace Queen like those are my natural Bluffs right I'm blocking Aces I'm blocking Kings I'm blocking
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Queens so just getting the proper understanding in those spots but I'd say in general the spots that we covered today you know a lot of great information a lot to digest kind of go back and and play around with and then come back with different questions in my end amazing well Joey
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it's been a pleasure studying with you today and I'm really looking forward to the progress you're going to be making in the near future here and seeing your journey as you become a GTO wizard oh yeah I'm I'm excited once again you know shout out to GTO wizard for for the partnership
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and obviously much love to you as always for all the advice you you know you help me out so much and I'm glad that you'll be able to help out the legion the Le the fans out there are going to be excited so yeah thanks a lot man I appreciate the lot appreciate you preparing all this information for me now I'm ready to [ __ ] battle you know so uh so yeah I'm excited I'm hyped up it's my
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honor Joey good luck in the streets man thank you sir I appreciate I'll see you soon [Music]